[GRRiders] Time limits/location for 1000k finish on GRR

[Daryn Dodge]

Rob,
 
Yes, your scenario of a 70 hr 1000k finish would allow a 5 hr rest before continuing.  Since the object is to get credit for a 200k ride by completing it in 13.5 hrs, this would put you at the finish no later than 88.5 hrs total.  And since you finished under 90 hrs from the start of the event, just like the GRR 1200k randonneurs, you get a GRR finishers jersey.  Actually, you may have 75.5 hrs before starting the 200k, since the Tobin control closes down at 21:34 (75.5 hrs after the start).  I realize this requires you to finish the entire event in 89 hrs, rather than 90 hrs, due to differences in km/hr speeds of the 1200k (last half speed) and 200k brevets.  This is done to try and keep the 1000k+200k option close to the same schedule as the 1200km brevet for closing times at later controls.
 
Because the 1200k and 1000k+200k option has different average km/hr speeds, it can be quite confusing.  I'm sure there are situations that could arise at Tobin that we have not forseen.  However, we are quite fortunate to have the Santa Rosa RBA, Donn King, running the Tobin control.  He is quite familiar with the rules and will do all he can in assisting the 1000k+200k riders at his Control.
 
Thanks for your questions.
 
Daryn
GRR committee member

>>> <rhawks at lmi.net> 4/29/2005 11:02 AM >>>

Daryn and Bill,

Thanks much for your answers. I do have one more question
that I wasn't sure of the answer. By asking this, I don't want
to signal that I'm planning on doing this (because I'm not)
but with a 75 hour limit on the 1000k, If I finished in 70
hours, would I technically be able to rest for 5 hours
before I started the 200k? What I really want to hear is
that unless I finish the 1000k in 75 hours flat, I have some
time to rest, should I need it, before starting the last
200k. I appreciate what you mean concerning not making the Tobin
control staff cool their heels while I dawdle.

I'm brand new to all of this, so naturally my questions come
from lack of experience.

rob hawks
richmond, ca

Quoting Bill Bryant <bill_bryant at prodigy.net>:

> You¹ve got it covered well, Daryn. When the 1000k is done, the rider can
> then start his/her 200k at that moment, or take a little rest at Tobin
> first. Just be sure to work backwards from 88.5 total GRR hours, though, in
> order to get the full 13.5 hours for the 200k. One wouldn¹t want to leave
> after that since this will be a sloooooow 200k.   ;-)
> 
> Bill Bryant
> RUSA HQ
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back in
> 2001
> > during planning of the first GRR.
> >  
> > Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k option.  Tobin
> was
> > actually 3 miles short of a 1000k, but since nearly every rider rode on to
> > complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one was made
> to
> > ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed before starting
> the
> > 200k portion.  We had one rider only complete the 1000k, then waited for a
> > relative to come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall what we did, but I
> > think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full 1000k.
> >  
> > For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond 1000k
> in
> > length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because we still have
> to
> > go out and measure some of small route changes we've made.
> >  
> > To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as soon
> as
> > you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'rest'
> time
> > between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k portion...as long
> as
> > you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when you reach
> > Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding time to complete
> the
> > 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't make any volunteers at Tobin
> wait
> > hours beyond the closing time of the Tobin control waiting for you to
> start
> > the 200k.
> >  
> > Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more detail on
> > this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any comment?
> >  
> > Daryn
> > 
> >>>> >>> <rhawks at lmi.net> 4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>
> > 
> > Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?
> > If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the
> > clock start for the 200k back to Davis?
> > 
> > thanks
> > rob hawks
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