[GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets

Tue Apr 12 15:58:16 PDT 2005

Joe,
	Not certain what sort of climate you usually ride in, but in
2001 the temp at the 6 PM start of the GRR was down to 95 degrees. As I
recall, the finish was equally warm! My tandem partner and I ended up
waiting in Oroville till close to sunset to avoid that heat on the
return!

	I'm from a cooler climate, New York on the Canadian border, and
went through a full Camelback within the first 30 miles. In addition to
that I carried two bottles on the bike, one with liquid nutrition, one
with more water. I also used a lot of endurolytes, to keep the
electrolyte levels up. They work for me and can be found at:
http://www.e-caps.com/za/ECP?PAGE=PRODUCT&CAT=SUPFUELS&PROD.ID=4037&OMI=
&AMI=&uir=product.category,SUPFUELS,Fuels%20%26%20Supplements

	I've used the Zefal bottles and they work fine, and I'll
probably use one or two of them in addition to the Camelback again this
year. To lighten the load, during the cooler stretches I won't fill
everything. An empty bottle doesn't weigh much, and can be left in a
drop bag.

	I'd suggest you consider starting with a Camelback, it can
always be dropped at the bag drop, and recovered again on the way back
for the final dash, or not. As I recall, unless the route changes from
2001, there was only about one town between Davis and Oroville, and few
doors to knock on and beg for water. (Someone more knowledgeable please
correct me if I'm wrong.)

	I really hate carrying anything on my back, especially in the
heat, but I find the convenience of sucking on the straw and capacity
help keep me hydrated. It's also a great place to pin the cue sheet,
oops, not riding tandem this year, never mind that one!
	Running out of water in the first hundred miles of a 1200k and
getting dehydrated is a "Bad Thing" to have happen, and tough or
impossible to recover from! It can really mess up the rest of the ride!

	If you do decide to get a Camelback, be certain to use it on
your training rides, just to get used to carrying the extra weight.

	Of course, your mileage may vary. If you're a desert rat and can
get by in 110 degree weather with little to drink, don't bother!

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: goldrushriders-bounces at dbclist.org
[mailto:goldrushriders-bounces at dbclist.org] On Behalf Of Joe Gross
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:22 PM
To: Eric S Nordman
Cc: goldrushriders at dbclist.org; randon at topica.com
Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets

On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:05:58AM -0700, Eric S Nordman wrote:
> While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of
long 
> rides.  As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to
the 
> seat post and accept paniers.  I plan to use a trunk on the rack
rather 
> than paniers.  Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup

> from detour.  He purchased the expandable version.  This setup is much

> lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such
as 
> the GRR. 
> Here is a link to the company site.  My friend bought it at REI but I 
> didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any
more.
> 
>
http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=61&osCsid=cfc8358
b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4

I've seen this one in person and it looks perfect. I'm ordering it for
my events as well.

> It sounds like I will need to get a camelback.  I usually carry two 
> waterbottles  but this sounds like it will not be enough for this
ride. 
> Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a
camelback.

Since my back and neck are going to hurt enough as it is, I'm sticking
with two bottles. I did find some larger bottles that hold 33 oz of
water that work fairly well for me. With two bottles I can hold as
much as I would in my 70oz Camelbak.

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=17078&subcategory_ID
=4341

If you want a camelback I've been pretty happy with the Classic. It's
got a small zipper pocket good for a phone and wallet and some bungie
cords to hold a jacket.

Joe

_______________________________________________
GoldRushRiders mailing list
GoldRushRiders at dbclist.org
http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders