From pnoris@yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 05:09:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web54408.mail.yahoo.com (web54408.mail.yahoo.com [68.142.225.164]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC8A193DB5 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97906 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Feb 2005 13:09:47 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=DZSK/JTgVmN2ygfg20cTkzY+IKsKg/XeontTkDgz7LhmVlucGCj4m/Lq3wXGqpsMPgDBCQkWlxxPfeNPGXWEo1RjwfRtXyoVwDUU+4pmkroETXUIEUPkf2gsFCDMjNiZccwI5nvk6JSrJRl63xaAGbAGqG1Az9fCGZuCcHtk3GY= ; Message-ID: <20050213130947.97904.qmail@web54408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [70.59.1.54] by web54408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:09:47 PST Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Noris To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [GRRiders] any recumbents out there? X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:09:48 -0000 I plan to do the Gold Rush on a Gold Rush - any other twisted - I mean 'bent - riders in the group? Peter __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From zakaplan@earthlink.net Sun Feb 13 06:11:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from pop-a065d10.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065d10.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.251]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C788993DB5 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-2injg0f.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.192.15]) by pop-a065d10.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1D0KTC-0004do-00 for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:11:31 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:11:38 -0800 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] any recumbents out there? From: Zach Kaplan To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050213130947.97904.qmail@web54408.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:11:32 -0000 on 2005/2/13 5:09, Peter Noris at pnoris@yahoo.com wrote: > I plan to do the Gold Rush on a Gold Rush - any other twisted - I mean 'bent - > riders in the > group? > > > Peter I don't think I'll take my Gold Rush, probably take the Aero instead. I saw a few other recumbent riders on the list. -------------------------------------------- Zach Kaplan Cycles Alameda, Northern California, North America 510-522-BENT (2368) zakaplan@earthlink.net From rhawks@lmi.net Sun Feb 13 13:50:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imap.lmi.net (nagios.lmi.net [66.117.140.245]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D37293DB5 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from imap.lmi.net (imap.lmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j1DLoDpo025348; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:50:13 -0800 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j1DLoDgL025347; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:50:13 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: imap.lmi.net: webmail set sender to rhawks@lmi.net using -f Received: from toolshed40.ppp.lmi.net (toolshed40.ppp.lmi.net [66.117.136.51]) by webmail.lmi.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:50:13 -0800 Message-ID: <1108331413.420fcb9591060@webmail.lmi.net> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:50:13 -0800 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: Zach Kaplan Subject: Re: [GRRiders] any recumbents out there? References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 66.117.136.51 cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:50:14 -0000 I saw Ron Bobb's name on the list I believe. While he isn't GPC, he is an old friend of Don's and I think once did the GPC ITT. rob Quoting Zach Kaplan : > on 2005/2/13 5:09, Peter Noris at pnoris@yahoo.com wrote: > > > I plan to do the Gold Rush on a Gold Rush - any other twisted - I mean > 'bent - > > riders in the > > group? > > > > > > Peter > > I don't think I'll take my Gold Rush, probably take the Aero instead. I saw > a few other recumbent riders on the list. > > -------------------------------------------- > Zach Kaplan Cycles > Alameda, Northern California, North America > 510-522-BENT (2368) > zakaplan@earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders > > From rhawks@lmi.net Mon Feb 14 10:01:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imap.lmi.net (nagios.lmi.net [66.117.140.245]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBAD93DB5 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from imap.lmi.net (imap.lmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j1EI1bpo015581 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:01:37 -0800 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j1EI1bN8015580 for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:01:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: imap.lmi.net: webmail set sender to rhawks@lmi.net using -f Received: from apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net (apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net [209.81.57.97]) by webmail.lmi.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:01:37 -0800 Message-ID: <1108404097.4210e78182fcc@webmail.lmi.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:01:37 -0800 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 209.81.57.97 Subject: [GRRiders] Oops X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:01:38 -0000 Sorry for the content of the post on recumbent riders. I wrote that thinking the posting had come from by local club's email list, the Grizzly Peak Cyclists. That said, Ron Bobb's name is on the list for the GRR, and he does ride recumbent. On another note, I liked seeing the listing of pre-signed riders for the GRR put up on the web. I'm interested in knowing where most riders will be coming from. I noticed a few names of riders I know to live outside of California. rob hawks richmond, ca From karoshi@pacbell.net Mon Feb 14 13:38:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web80408.mail.yahoo.com (web80408.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.79.63]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22E2693DB5 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:38:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20050214213815.7419.qmail@web80408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.207.205.186] by web80408.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:38:15 PST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:38:15 -0800 (PST) From: Sterling Hada To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:38:16 -0000 Submitted for your interest: This might not be news for the GRR organizers, but I got word from a friend and fellow prospective GRR participant about the Davis Creek Store near the turnaround. Always nice to have lots of support on brevets, and it sounds like these folk -- friends of Sydney's -- are happy to help us on the ride. Thanks. Sterling Hi Sterling Forgot to mention that the Davis Creek store (on the Gold Rush Randonee route, on Hwy 395 near Goose Lake) has new proprietors...Erika Forrest and her boyfriend John. Erika (Neneeka) used to work here at the Modoc NF, and her mom Margaret still does. They are just starting out with the store and a small deli. The store has always been a hub for the local community, but there's now a newer recreational crowd; Sugar Hill (nearby) is a summer hang gliding destination, and there are lots more RVs on the road these days. When I heard they bought the store, I printed off the Gold Rush ride information so I imagine they'll plan on being open and prepared, at least I hope so. Sydney Smith Ecologist, Sierra-Cascade Province Modoc National Forest From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Tue Feb 15 06:42:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BC2393DB8 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@64.160.50.154 with login) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 14:42:44 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:42:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store From: Bill Bryant To: Sterling Hada , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050214213815.7419.qmail@web80408.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:42:46 -0000 Thanks Sterling-- FWIW, I worked the 600k checkpoint at Davis Creek during the inaugural GRR four years ago and the store staff couldn't have been more helpful. Great folks, and I'm glad to hear Margaret still works there. Along with providing the riders with food and drink, she arranged for us to use the old church site for our control, gave as an overflow option for sleeping, etc. She and the store staff were genuinely interested in the welfare and progress of the riders (and a little bit incredulous too.) ;-) Cheers, Bill Bryant > Submitted for your interest: > > This might not be news for the GRR organizers, but I > got word from a friend and fellow prospective GRR > participant about the Davis Creek Store near the > turnaround. > > Always nice to have lots of support on brevets, and it > sounds like these folk -- friends of Sydney's -- are > happy to help us on the ride. > > Thanks. > Sterling > > Hi Sterling > Forgot to mention that the Davis Creek store (on the > Gold Rush Randonee route, on Hwy 395 near Goose Lake) > has new proprietors...Erika Forrest and her boyfriend > John. Erika (Neneeka) used to work here at the Modoc > NF, and > her mom Margaret still does. They are just starting > out with the store and a small deli. The store has > always been a hub for the local community, but there's > now a newer recreational crowd; Sugar Hill (nearby) is > a summer hang gliding destination, and there are lots > more RVs on the road these > days. When I heard they bought the store, I printed > off the Gold Rush ride information so I imagine > they'll plan on being open and prepared, at least I > hope so. > > > > Sydney Smith > Ecologist, Sierra-Cascade Province > Modoc National Forest > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Tue Feb 15 07:38:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wvmler2.mail.xerox.com (wvmler2.mail.xerox.com [13.8.138.217]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7DF93DB8 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com [13.147.8.222]) j1FFc35b009552; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:38:14 -0800 Received: from wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j1FFbrQW022477; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:37:53 -0800 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j1FFbRkI022267; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:37:53 -0800 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:37:50 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:37:43 -0500 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC009CF0E@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store Thread-Index: AcUTbPPCvvRHQn+1T/CbhJOKWVLx6gAA0rXw From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: "Bill Bryant" , "Sterling Hada" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2005 15:37:50.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[4ED1E600:01C51374] X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:38:14 -0000 FWIW, I rode the inaugural GRR four years ago, and I'm certain I passed the store, but don't remember the details. Actually about all I remember of the 600k turnaround was Bill Bryant's happy face and a volunteer who's name I'm sorry I can't remember. Who stands out because he held our tandem the entire time we were at the stop (there wasn't a good place to lean it, without risking scratching up something that wasn't ours) Lastly I remember the pack of dogs that swirled around the bike at one point on the way back to Alturus, so close to us I stepped one to the ground under a pedal. Many other things stand out from the GRR too, like the cold at Eagle Lake, but I'll save most of those for later.... Gosh that was a great ride! =20 Pete -----Original Message----- From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of Bill Bryant Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM To: Sterling Hada; goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store Thanks Sterling-- FWIW, I worked the 600k checkpoint at Davis Creek during the inaugural GRR four years ago and the store staff couldn't have been more helpful. Great folks, and I'm glad to hear Margaret still works there. Along with providing the riders with food and drink, she arranged for us to use the old church site for our control, gave as an overflow option for sleeping, etc. She and the store staff were genuinely interested in the welfare and progress of the riders (and a little bit incredulous too.) ;-) Cheers, Bill Bryant > Submitted for your interest: >=20 > This might not be news for the GRR organizers, but I > got word from a friend and fellow prospective GRR > participant about the Davis Creek Store near the > turnaround. >=20 > Always nice to have lots of support on brevets, and it > sounds like these folk -- friends of Sydney's -- are > happy to help us on the ride. >=20 > Thanks. > Sterling >=20 > Hi Sterling > Forgot to mention that the Davis Creek store (on the > Gold Rush Randonee route, on Hwy 395 near Goose Lake) > has new proprietors...Erika Forrest and her boyfriend > John. Erika (Neneeka) used to work here at the Modoc > NF, and > her mom Margaret still does. They are just starting > out with the store and a small deli. The store has > always been a hub for the local community, but there's > now a newer recreational crowd; Sugar Hill (nearby) is > a summer hang gliding destination, and there are lots > more RVs on the road these > days. When I heard they bought the store, I printed > off the Gold Rush ride information so I imagine > they'll plan on being open and prepared, at least I > hope so. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Sydney Smith > Ecologist, Sierra-Cascade Province > Modoc National Forest > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Tue Feb 15 07:56:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp817.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp817.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.3]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 289FE93DB8 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@64.172.97.216 with login) by smtp817.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 15:56:16 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:56:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store From: Bill Bryant To: "Dusel, Peter W" , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC009CF0E@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:56:17 -0000 Hi Peter-- Great to hear from one of the past GRR finishers. The hard-working folks running the Davis Creek control were Dean & Sandy Goodfellow. I understand they've re-upped for another tour of duty this summer. :-) Man, those dammed dogs gave us fits for a couple of hours when you went through on Wednesday morning-- they were on an Indian reservation and the local county sheriff couldn't/wouldn't help us out too much due to reservation jurisdictions issues. After they went home, he suggested I just shoot them if they caused any further problems-- but I had foolishly left my guns at home during the randonnee. ;-) Seriously, no one got bit in 2001, only scared. Anyhoo, I've got this crazy idea that this year I'd like to try to be a rider and so might be on the other end of their hospitality-- the Goodfellows, not the dogs. But if the qualifiers don't go according to plan, I'll be out there helping somewhere along the route too. Despite the hours of work, it was a lot of fun overall. Plus, I got to travel to a neat part of the state for some scenic travel. Bill Bryant > FWIW, I rode the inaugural GRR four years ago, and I'm certain I > passed the store, but don't remember the details. Actually about all I > remember of the 600k turnaround was Bill Bryant's happy face and a > volunteer who's name I'm sorry I can't remember. Who stands out because > he held our tandem the entire time we were at the stop (there wasn't a > good place to lean it, without risking scratching up something that > wasn't ours) Lastly I remember the pack of dogs that swirled around the > bike at one point on the way back to Alturus, so close to us I stepped > one to the ground under a pedal. > > Many other things stand out from the GRR too, like the cold at > Eagle Lake, but I'll save most of those for later.... > > Gosh that was a great ride! > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org > [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of Bill Bryant > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:43 AM > To: Sterling Hada; goldrushriders@dbclist.org > Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Davis Creek Store > > > Thanks Sterling-- > FWIW, I worked the 600k checkpoint at Davis Creek during the inaugural > GRR > four years ago and the store staff couldn't have been more helpful. > Great > folks, and I'm glad to hear Margaret still works there. Along with > providing > the riders with food and drink, she arranged for us to use the old > church > site for our control, gave as an overflow option for sleeping, etc. She > and > the store staff were genuinely interested in the welfare and progress of > the > riders (and a little bit incredulous too.) ;-) > > Cheers, > Bill Bryant > > > > > >> Submitted for your interest: >> >> This might not be news for the GRR organizers, but I >> got word from a friend and fellow prospective GRR >> participant about the Davis Creek Store near the >> turnaround. >> >> Always nice to have lots of support on brevets, and it >> sounds like these folk -- friends of Sydney's -- are >> happy to help us on the ride. >> >> Thanks. >> Sterling >> >> Hi Sterling >> Forgot to mention that the Davis Creek store (on the >> Gold Rush Randonee route, on Hwy 395 near Goose Lake) >> has new proprietors...Erika Forrest and her boyfriend >> John. Erika (Neneeka) used to work here at the Modoc >> NF, and >> her mom Margaret still does. They are just starting >> out with the store and a small deli. The store has >> always been a hub for the local community, but there's >> now a newer recreational crowd; Sugar Hill (nearby) is >> a summer hang gliding destination, and there are lots >> more RVs on the road these >> days. When I heard they bought the store, I printed >> off the Gold Rush ride information so I imagine >> they'll plan on being open and prepared, at least I >> hope so. >> >> >> >> Sydney Smith >> Ecologist, Sierra-Cascade Province >> Modoc National Forest >> _______________________________________________ >> GoldRushRiders mailing list >> GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org >> http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders > > > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From jcossa@bellsouth.net Thu Mar 10 02:12:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D729426D for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ossa4600 ([68.214.126.245]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with SMTP id <20050310101215.DBEG28183.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@Ossa4600> for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 05:12:15 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c52559$a22ad400$0200a8c0@Ossa4600> From: "Jim & Conchi Ossa" To: Subject: [GRRiders] any recumbents out there? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 05:12:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C5252F.B91B9390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:12:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C5252F.B91B9390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, Planning to ride Gold Rush on my Aero. Hope it's as much fun as PBP. = Some say Gold Rush is the best 1200K in the world.=20 Tailwinds... 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Hi Peter,
 
Planning to ride Gold Rush on my = Aero.  Hope=20 it's as much fun as PBP. Some say Gold Rush is the best 1200K in the = world.=20
 
Tailwinds...
 
James.
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C5252F.B91B9390-- From rhawks@lmi.net Thu Mar 10 08:22:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imap.lmi.net (nagios.lmi.net [66.117.140.245]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEEB94212 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from imap.lmi.net (imap.lmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2AGMUpo022931 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:22:30 -0800 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j2AGMUv0022930 for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:22:30 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: imap.lmi.net: webmail set sender to rhawks@lmi.net using -f Received: from hat48.ppp.lmi.net (hat48.ppp.lmi.net [66.117.136.155]) by webmail.lmi.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:22:30 -0800 Message-ID: <1110471750.42307446468b3@webmail.lmi.net> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:22:30 -0800 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 66.117.136.155 Subject: [GRRiders] Davis 200k last saturday: Photos? X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:22:31 -0000 Anyone on this list attend the 200k in Davis last weekend and take photos? Let me know if they are on line somewhere. Thanks. rob hawks From ppiltch@pathcom.com Fri Mar 11 13:42:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp.tor.pathcom.com (smtp.tor.pathcom.com [209.250.128.26]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A587094164 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rdsl-0740.tor.pathcom.com [207.188.64.228] (may be forged)) by smtp.tor.pathcom.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j2BLgsD0008570 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: <42310610.6050108@pathcom.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:44:32 -0500 From: Phil Piltch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: [GRRiders] Looking forward to the ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:42:57 -0000 Just a quick note to introduce myself to the list and to say I am=20 looking forward to doing the ride. This will be my second mountain=20 randonne=E9 - the first was RM1200 in 2002. I've also done PBP twice, so = it will be interesting to see how GRR compares to the other 1200s I've=20 done. I used to live in the SF Bay Area many years ago and make regular=20 visits to family near Berkeley, although I didn't start long distance=20 riding until after I settled in Metro Toronto. I ride with Randonneurs=20 Ontario, and do most of my grand adventures in South Central Ontario.=20 Looking forward to meeting others at the ride. Phil --=20 Phillip Piltch 11 Hollydene Road Scarborough, ON M1L 2A4 From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Fri Mar 11 17:27:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.1]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2674494164 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@63.206.116.151 with login) by smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2005 01:27:47 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:27:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Looking forward to the ride From: Bill Bryant To: Phil Piltch , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <42310610.6050108@pathcom.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:27:53 -0000 Hi Phil-- Nice to hear from you, and welcome aboard. I've enjoyed your ride reports o= n the Randonneurs Ontario web site for years. Four years ago we had Ken Dobb from Ontario do the ride and he finished in fine fashion, Michael Lau too. They are at opposite ends of the speed spectrum, so perhaps you can talk to each of them to get their various perspectives before you travel west. Here in northern California, it seems spring has sprung. Davis had its 200k brevet last Saturday and it was a big success. Nice day, friendly riders (about 85-90, very few DNFs), no serious problems that I heard about. San Francisco has already started its series and Santa Rosa kicks theirs off this Saturday. All in all, a good start to the qualifying campaign for many regional randonneurs and randonneuses. From my vantage here at RUSA HQ, I sense there is a good amount of interest for the GRR around the nation. FWIW, I was doing some recon work on the GRR route a few weeks back. The Davis 400k on May 7th will take in the first 110 miles of the GRR route. It has the most of the turns and will be ridden at night on the GRR, so seeing it in daylight during the 400k should be a help. Anyhoo, the big news was that bumpy Cranmore Road along the Sacramento Rive= r levee has had many of the potholes filled in. Four years ago this 12-mile stretch caused some worries, but for 2005 things are definitely improved. Not a super-smooth surface to be sure, but much better than before. :-) Looking forward to seeing you and all the others in July, Bill Bryant Santa Cruz, California > Just a quick note to introduce myself to the list and to say I am > looking forward to doing the ride. This will be my second mountain > randonne=E9 - the first was RM1200 in 2002. I've also done PBP twice, so > it will be interesting to see how GRR compares to the other 1200s I've > done. I used to live in the SF Bay Area many years ago and make regular > visits to family near Berkeley, although I didn't start long distance > riding until after I settled in Metro Toronto. I ride with Randonneurs > Ontario, and do most of my grand adventures in South Central Ontario. > Looking forward to meeting others at the ride. >=20 > Phil From ppiltch@pathcom.com Wed Mar 16 14:48:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp.tor.pathcom.com (smtp.tor.pathcom.com [209.250.128.26]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8296D93DB5 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rdsl-0957.tor.pathcom.com [207.188.65.189] (may be forged)) by smtp.tor.pathcom.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j2GMmaD0007793 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:48:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4238B7C6.8060700@pathcom.com> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:48:38 -0500 From: Phil Piltch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRRiders] Registration forms? X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:48:44 -0000 I've been on the GRR website for a copy of the registration form - does anyone know if one is available? I've just finished what is likely me last outing on the skis this past Sunday (a lovely sunny day at one of my favourite Nordic ski places), and will be going south with a group from my randonneur club to Table Rock State Park to get in a week of cycling. Hoping for good weather. Phil -- Phillip Piltch 11 Hollydene Road Scarborough, ON M1L 2A4 From karoshi@pacbell.net Sat Apr 2 16:10:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.1]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B655B94209 for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO solo.pacbell.net) (karoshi@pacbell.net@68.127.161.133 with login) by smtp815.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2005 00:10:12 -0000 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050402161037.02cbd210@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com> X-Sender: karoshi@pacbell.net@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:12:47 -0800 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org From: Sterling Hada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [GRRiders] Reg forms are up X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:10:14 -0000 Not to step on anyone's toes here, nor is this to imply that I'm a "hoverer:" I just noticed that the reg forms for the GRR are on the website. In Word of PDF format. Woo hoo! Sterling From Jkspinning@aol.com Sun Apr 3 21:54:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F9D94219 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jkspinning@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id q.1c1.258b6821 (17079) for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:54:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Jkspinning@aol.com Message-ID: <1c1.258b6821.2f822279@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 00:54:17 EDT To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1112590457" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 1200 Subject: [GRRiders] Correct Date and Day for GRR Start X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:54:21 -0000 -------------------------------1112590457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having looked at the web site and the Rider Packet, I'm not sure of the correct date for the start of the GRR. 7/19/05 seems to be the predominant date but there are also references to 7/9/05 and a Monday start. What is the correct starting date? Glenn Moyer -------------------------------1112590457 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having looked at the web site and the Rider Packet, I'm not sure of the= =20 correct date for the start of the GRR.  7/19/05 seems to be the predomi= nant=20 date but there are also references to 7/9/05 and a Monday start.  What=20= is=20 the correct starting date? 
 
Glenn Moyer
 -------------------------------1112590457-- From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Mon Apr 4 07:16:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.84]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB82D93DB8 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@64.160.183.107 with login) by smtp814.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 14:16:27 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 07:16:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Correct Date and Day for GRR Start From: Bill Bryant To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1c1.258b6821.2f822279@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3195443787_536132" X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:16:29 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3195443787_536132 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Glenn-- I suspect there is some 2001 material being recycled when the Monday, 7/9 date is shown on current GRR materials. The GRR date for 2005 is Tuesday, 7/19=8B with a nice full moon on Thursday, the 21st for some good night riding. :-) Cheers, Bill Bryant RUSA HQ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Having looked at the web site and the Rider Packet, I'm not sure of the > correct date for the start of the GRR. 7/19/05 seems to be the predomina= nt > date but there are also references to 7/9/05 and a Monday start. What is= the > correct starting date? > =20 > Glenn Moyer >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders --B_3195443787_536132 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [GRRiders] Correct Date and Day for GRR Start Hi Glenn--
I suspect there is some 2001 material being recycled when the Monday, 7/9 d= ate is shown on current GRR materials.

The GRR date for 2005 is Tuesday, 7/19— with a nice full moon on Thur= sday, the 21st for some good night riding.    :-)

Cheers,
Bill Bryant
RUSA HQ





Having looked at the web site and the Rider Packet, I'm not sure of the cor= rect date for the start of the GRR.  7/19/05 seems to be the predominan= t date but there are also references to 7/9/05 and a Monday start.  Wha= t is the correct starting date?  
 
Glenn Moyer

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 --B_3195443787_536132-- From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Mon Apr 4 07:24:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (wbmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.218]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E4693DB8 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) j34EO2J2028392; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:24:08 -0400 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j34ENTp6006228; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:23:29 -0400 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j34ENT2I006222; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:23:29 -0400 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:23:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C53921.DEFC9078" Subject: RE: [GRRiders] Correct Date and Day for GRR Start Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:23:28 -0400 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC0A7E120@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRRiders] Correct Date and Day for GRR Start Thread-Index: AcU5IUZBBiM5qeSLSlaVqeZWgHSPNgAACmQA From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: "Bill Bryant" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2005 14:23:29.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF2C3ED0:01C53921] X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:24:09 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C53921.DEFC9078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, I had happily noticed the full moon date! it will be another beautiful crank up Feather River Canyon under a full moon! =20 Little road traffic, lots of trains and falling water noises and the canyon in the ghostly light of the full moon. =20 I have great memories of that from 2001, hope to repeat it this year. =20 Pete -----Original Message----- From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of Bill Bryant Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:16 AM To: Jkspinning@aol.com; goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Correct Date and Day for GRR Start =09 =09 Hi Glenn-- I suspect there is some 2001 material being recycled when the Monday, 7/9 date is shown on current GRR materials.=20 =09 The GRR date for 2005 is Tuesday, 7/19- with a nice full moon on Thursday, the 21st for some good night riding. :-) =09 Cheers, Bill Bryant RUSA HQ =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 Having looked at the web site and the Rider Packet, I'm not sure of the correct date for the start of the GRR. 7/19/05 seems to be the predominant date but there are also references to 7/9/05 and a Monday start. What is the correct starting date? =20 =20 Glenn Moyer =09 =09 _____ =20 _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders =09 =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C53921.DEFC9078 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Bill,
    I had happily noticed the full moon date! it = will=20 be another beautiful crank up Feather River Canyon under a full=20 moon!
 
    Little road traffic, lots of trains = and falling=20 water noises and the canyon in the ghostly light of the full=20 moon.
 
    I have great memories of that from 2001, = hope to=20 repeat it this year.
 
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org = [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org]=20 On Behalf Of Bill Bryant
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 = 10:16=20 AM
To: Jkspinning@aol.com;=20 goldrushriders@dbclist.org
Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Correct = Date and=20 Day for GRR Start

Hi Glenn--
I suspect there is some 2001 = material=20 being recycled when the Monday, 7/9 date is shown on current GRR = materials.=20

The GRR date for 2005 is Tuesday, 7/19— with a nice full = moon on=20 Thursday, the 21st for some good night riding.=20    :-)

Cheers,
Bill Bryant
RUSA=20 HQ





Having looked at the = web site=20 and the Rider Packet, I'm not sure of the correct date for the start = of the=20 GRR.  7/19/05 seems to be the predominant date but there are = also=20 references to 7/9/05 and a Monday start.  What is the correct = starting=20 date?  
 
Glenn Moyer

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C53921.DEFC9078-- From ppiltch@pathcom.com Mon Apr 4 16:13:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp.tor.pathcom.com (unknown [209.250.128.26]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6227D94267 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rdsl-0095.tor.pathcom.com [207.188.66.95]) by smtp.tor.pathcom.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j34NDTD0001915 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:13:30 -0400 Message-ID: <4251C5C5.4020503@pathcom.com> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:55:01 -0400 From: Phil Piltch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Reg forms are up References: <6.1.2.0.2.20050402161037.02cbd210@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050402161037.02cbd210@pop.pacbell.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:13:41 -0000 Sterling Hada wrote: > I just noticed that the reg forms for the GRR are on the website. In > Word of PDF format. Woo hoo! Thanks for the "heads up" - I downloaded the form in both formats - now all I have to do is get in the training rides..... -- Phillip Piltch 11 Hollydene Road Scarborough, ON M1L 2A4 From rhawks@lmi.net Mon Apr 11 11:04:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imap.lmi.net (nagios.lmi.net [66.117.140.245]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C416B94219 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.lmi.net (imap.lmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3BI4iqY003930 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:44 -0700 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j3BI4itd003929 for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: imap.lmi.net: webmail set sender to rhawks@lmi.net using -f Received: from apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net (apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net [209.81.57.97]) by webmail.lmi.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1113242683.425abc3bef4c2@webmail.lmi.net> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:04:43 -0700 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 209.81.57.97 Subject: [GRRiders] Santa Rosa 300km route questions X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:04:45 -0000 Is this route online anywhere? Anyone know the elevation gain for the course? I'm quite new to these rides so haven't done them in the past. Thanks in advance. rob hawks richmond, ca From ridelots@bwss.com Mon Apr 11 12:07:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from audi.webcom.com (audi.webcom.com [192.220.116.144]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4099E94267 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kigal (kigal.webcom.com [192.220.116.57]) by audi.webcom.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id j3BGEOYP025633 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:59:18 -0700 Received: from [65.8.177.198] by banana (WebCom SMTP 2.0) with SMTP id 64421947; Mon Apr 11 12:11 PDT 2005 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1113242683.425abc3bef4c2@webmail.lmi.net> References: <1113242683.425abc3bef4c2@webmail.lmi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Pyle Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:07:33 -0400 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: [GRRiders] Registration questions - # of riders X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:07:42 -0000 On the web site it says riders will be limited to 175, while on the registration forms it says 150 on page 2 under GRR Qualification, and 250 on the actual registration form. I'm assuming it was raised from 175 to 250 and the 150 is a misprint - correct? Also, I sent in my registration last week. How and when can I expect to be notified about acceptance? Thanks, Dave Pyle Ft. Lauderdale, FL From jgross@stimpy.net Mon Apr 11 12:54:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from stimpy.net (dsl081-053-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.128]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEBD94267 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stimpy.net (Postfix, from userid 314) id D152618E207; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:54:54 -0700 From: Joe Gross To: rhawks@lmi.net Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Santa Rosa 300km route questions Message-ID: <20050411195454.GA65033@felix.stimpy.net> References: <1113242683.425abc3bef4c2@webmail.lmi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1113242683.425abc3bef4c2@webmail.lmi.net> cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:54:55 -0000 http://pages.prodigy.net/scrandonneurs/pinnacles300kmap.html Looks like about 8000ft of climbing, according to my topo software. Joe On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:04:43AM -0700, rhawks@lmi.net wrote: > > Is this route online anywhere? Anyone know the elevation gain > for the course? I'm quite new to these rides so haven't done > them in the past. Thanks in advance. > > rob hawks > richmond, ca > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From craig.robertson@sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 11 13:04:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web80602.mail.yahoo.com (web80602.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.79.91]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6422094267 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20050411200410.45648.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.142.183.194] by web80602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:10 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:04:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Robertson Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Santa Rosa 300km route questions To: Joe Gross , rhawks@lmi.net In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1505828629-1113249850=:45641" cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:04:11 -0000 --0-1505828629-1113249850=:45641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's the route for the Santa Cruz 300k. The Santa Rosa 300k goes out to Pt. Reyes. That route is http://home.pacbell.net/donnk/srcc300k.pdf I don't have an altimeter so I can't tell you about the elevation gain. On both routes, there can be a rather taxing headwind on the way home from the turnaround. Craig Robertson Joe Gross wrote: http://pages.prodigy.net/scrandonneurs/pinnacles300kmap.html Looks like about 8000ft of climbing, according to my topo software. Joe On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:04:43AM -0700, rhawks@lmi.net wrote: > > Is this route online anywhere? Anyone know the elevation gain > for the course? I'm quite new to these rides so haven't done > them in the past. 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That's the route for the Santa Cruz 300k. The Santa Rosa 300k goes out to Pt. Reyes.  That route is http://home.pacbell.net/donnk/srcc300k.pdf  
 
I don't have an altimeter so I can't tell you about the elevation gain.  On both routes, there can be a rather taxing headwind on the way home from the turnaround. 
 
Craig Robertson

Joe Gross <jgross-dbc@stimpy.net> wrote:
http://pages.prodigy.net/scrandonneurs/pinnacles300kmap.html

Looks like about 8000ft of climbing, according to my topo software.

Joe

On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:04:43AM -0700, rhawks@lmi.net wrote:
>
> Is this route online anywhere? Anyone know the elevation gain
> for the course? I'm quite new to these rides so haven't done
> them in the past. Thanks in advance.
>
> rob hawks
> richmond, ca
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I mistakenly posted the Santa Cruz route. My apologies for not reading past "Santa." See you all out there! Joe On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:54:54PM -0700, Joe Gross wrote: > http://pages.prodigy.net/scrandonneurs/pinnacles300kmap.html > > Looks like about 8000ft of climbing, according to my topo software. > > Joe > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:04:43AM -0700, rhawks@lmi.net wrote: > > > > Is this route online anywhere? Anyone know the elevation gain > > for the course? I'm quite new to these rides so haven't done > > them in the past. Thanks in advance. > > > > rob hawks > > richmond, ca > > _______________________________________________ > > GoldRushRiders mailing list > > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Mon Apr 11 14:16:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.93]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 760BF94267 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@63.206.116.145 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2005 21:16:32 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:16:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Santa Rosa 300km route questions From: Bill Bryant To: Joe Gross , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050411195454.GA65033@felix.stimpy.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:16:34 -0000 Hi Guys-- Joe, I think perhaps you measured the Pinnacles 300k on April 23rd run by the Santa Cruz Randonneurs (SCR), but I think Rob is asking about the Santa Rosa Cycling Club's (SRCC) 300k on this Saturday. Probably the SCR vs SRCC monikers are too close to avoid confusion. (But thanks for the measurement!) Anyhoo, FWIW, I don't know the climbing for the SRCC 300k to Pt Reyes, but I did try to ride it a couple of years ago, but only got about 200k. It was a tough ride-- not so much from any long climbs, but multiple short ones and REALLY strong winds along the coast. Ride organizer Donn King said, 'Come loaded for bear' and he wasn't far off the mark. It was hard. Beautiful route, so that does take your mind off your suffering (if it is a windy day). It was pretty neat getting out to Land's End on Pt Reyes for the turnaround, it felt like we were at the edge of the continent (as indeed we were.) Anyone who finishes the SRCC 300k is, in my book, a randonneur/randonneuse with a capital "R". :-) Maybe if you went to the RUSA web site and used the Officials search tool, or the Links page by clubs, you could contact RBA Donn King and he'd have an altitude number for you? Bonne Route! Bill Bryant > http://pages.prodigy.net/scrandonneurs/pinnacles300kmap.html > > Looks like about 8000ft of climbing, according to my topo software. > > Joe > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 11:04:43AM -0700, rhawks@lmi.net wrote: >> >> Is this route online anywhere? Anyone know the elevation gain >> for the course? I'm quite new to these rides so haven't done >> them in the past. Thanks in advance. >> >> rob hawks >> richmond, ca >> _______________________________________________ >> GoldRushRiders mailing list >> GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org >> http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From rahabdas@comcast.net Mon Apr 11 22:14:02 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F409421A for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from computer (c-67-188-119-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.188.119.240]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2005041205135801600as9n2e>; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:14:00 +0000 Message-ID: <006501c53f1e$43ccef40$f077bc43@hsd1.ca.comcast.net> From: "rahabdas" To: , , References: <1510915506-1463747838-1112743068@boing.topica.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:12:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:14:02 -0000 Hello Joe! I did not see responses to your inquiry on the lists, but here's my skinny: 1. Hydration and nutrition: 100 oz. camelback and two large water bottles. Meal replacement drinks for 50-60% of total nutritional requirements. 2. Clothing layers: Four (4) layers of clothing above and two (2) layers below the waist: short sleeve jersey; long sleeve jersey; light wind breaker; rain coat; bib shorts and long tights. 3. A rear trunk rack to carry clothing, food, tools, etc. 4. Drop bags at Adin and Susanville to contain sleeping clothes, shower kit, bib shorts, socks, jersey, meal replacement drinks, batteries, etc. Drop bag at Greenville for meal replacement drinks and batteries. etc. 5. Cycle primarily in the aerobic range from 50 to 75%, e.g., maximize use of body fat stores and minimize fatigue! 6. Sleep 3+ hours at Adin outbound and Susanville inbound. Power-sleep inbound at Greenville and Oroville, as necessary. 7. Use fenders and 700x28 randonneur tyres. Robert "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live."--Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Gross" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Like many on this list, I intend to complete the Davis Gold Rush in July. Up until today the longest rides I've done are a bunch of doubles, where I manage my clothing by wearing arm/knee/toe warmers and a vest during the morning/evening sections. These all stuff nicely into my jersey pockets during the hot day, but I wouldn't want to wear them all night since they're not warm enough. The GRR promises to be hot during the day and cold at night, meaning that I'll need to warmer layers for night riding. Even though I'll have drop bags where I can have warmer clothing waiting for me, I'm not going to make any assumptions about where I'll be when it gets cold and dark. In general I'm thinking I'll need the following Base Layer: Shorts, short sleeve Jersey, defeet wooleator socks, short finger gloves. For temps <70 and >55: Arm/knee/toe warmers, vest, thin long fingered gloves. Below 50 (especially at night when I don't have the sun warming me) I need to add a few items like long sleeve jersey layer, a thin windbreaker jacket, and possibly thicker gloves and full booties. Along with some supplies and extra food, this won't all fit in my jersey pockets and under-seat pack. What kind of solutions do people generally employ for carrying (or not carrying) the stuff they need on these long events? I have a decent commuter bike with a Tubus rack and trunk, and also have a CF road bike that weighs about 10lb less and is much more comfortable. My question can be broken down as follows - What do you carry with you on a Brevet (clothing, supplies, etc) - How do you carry it? (ie: full rack, seat post rack, carradice, etc) - What do you put in your drop bags. - Any other logistic tips. Much of the fun of the Brevets is learning how to work out these logistics. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joe From nordmaes@appliedbiosystems.com Tue Apr 12 11:06:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from prd051.appliedbiosystems.com (prd051.appliedbiosystems.com [206.139.64.39]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14B39428C; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usfosmta01.pe-c.com (usfosmta01.pe-c.com [167.116.108.7]) ESMTP id j3CI6ZtI011651; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006501c53f1e$43ccef40$f077bc43@hsd1.ca.comcast.net> To: "rahabdas" Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.3 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: Eric S Nordman Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:05:58 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on USFOSMTA01/FOS/PEC(Release 6.0.3|September 26, 2003) at 04/12/2005 11:05:36 AM, Serialize complete at 04/12/2005 11:05:36 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00636C3088256FE1_=" cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org cc: randon@topica.com cc: jgross@stimpy.net cc: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:06:17 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00636C3088256FE1_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Joe: While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of long rides. As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to the seat post and accept paniers. I plan to use a trunk on the rack rather than paniers. Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup from detour. He purchased the expandable version. This setup is much lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such as the GRR. Here is a link to the company site. My friend bought it at REI but I didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any more. http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=61&osCsid=cfc8358b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4 It sounds like I will need to get a camelback. I usually carry two waterbottles but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback. --Eric Nordman "rahabdas" Sent by: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org 04/11/2005 10:12 PM To , , cc Subject [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Hello Joe! I did not see responses to your inquiry on the lists, but here's my skinny: 1. Hydration and nutrition: 100 oz. camelback and two large water bottles. Meal replacement drinks for 50-60% of total nutritional requirements. 2. Clothing layers: Four (4) layers of clothing above and two (2) layers below the waist: short sleeve jersey; long sleeve jersey; light wind breaker; rain coat; bib shorts and long tights. 3. A rear trunk rack to carry clothing, food, tools, etc. 4. Drop bags at Adin and Susanville to contain sleeping clothes, shower kit, bib shorts, socks, jersey, meal replacement drinks, batteries, etc. Drop bag at Greenville for meal replacement drinks and batteries. etc. 5. Cycle primarily in the aerobic range from 50 to 75%, e.g., maximize use of body fat stores and minimize fatigue! 6. Sleep 3+ hours at Adin outbound and Susanville inbound. Power-sleep inbound at Greenville and Oroville, as necessary. 7. Use fenders and 700x28 randonneur tyres. Robert "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live."--Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Gross" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Like many on this list, I intend to complete the Davis Gold Rush in July. Up until today the longest rides I've done are a bunch of doubles, where I manage my clothing by wearing arm/knee/toe warmers and a vest during the morning/evening sections. These all stuff nicely into my jersey pockets during the hot day, but I wouldn't want to wear them all night since they're not warm enough. The GRR promises to be hot during the day and cold at night, meaning that I'll need to warmer layers for night riding. Even though I'll have drop bags where I can have warmer clothing waiting for me, I'm not going to make any assumptions about where I'll be when it gets cold and dark. In general I'm thinking I'll need the following Base Layer: Shorts, short sleeve Jersey, defeet wooleator socks, short finger gloves. For temps <70 and >55: Arm/knee/toe warmers, vest, thin long fingered gloves. Below 50 (especially at night when I don't have the sun warming me) I need to add a few items like long sleeve jersey layer, a thin windbreaker jacket, and possibly thicker gloves and full booties. Along with some supplies and extra food, this won't all fit in my jersey pockets and under-seat pack. What kind of solutions do people generally employ for carrying (or not carrying) the stuff they need on these long events? I have a decent commuter bike with a Tubus rack and trunk, and also have a CF road bike that weighs about 10lb less and is much more comfortable. My question can be broken down as follows - What do you carry with you on a Brevet (clothing, supplies, etc) - How do you carry it? (ie: full rack, seat post rack, carradice, etc) - What do you put in your drop bags. - Any other logistic tips. Much of the fun of the Brevets is learning how to work out these logistics. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joe _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders --=_alternative 00636C3088256FE1_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Joe:
While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of long rides.  As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to the seat post and accept paniers.  I plan to use a trunk on the rack rather than paniers.  Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup from detour.  He purchased the expandable version.  This setup is much lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such as the GRR.
Here is a link to the company site.  My friend bought it at REI but I didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any more.

http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=61&osCsid=cfc8358b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4

It sounds like I will need to get a camelback.  I usually carry two waterbottles  but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride.  Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback.
--Eric Nordman






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Hello Joe!
I did not see responses to your inquiry on the lists, but here's my skinny:
1. Hydration and nutrition: 100 oz. camelback and two large water bottles.
Meal replacement drinks for 50-60% of total nutritional requirements.
2. Clothing layers: Four (4) layers of clothing above and two (2) layers
below the waist: short sleeve jersey; long sleeve jersey; light wind
breaker; rain coat; bib shorts and long tights.
3. A rear trunk rack to carry clothing, food, tools, etc.
4. Drop bags at Adin and Susanville to contain sleeping clothes, shower kit,
bib shorts, socks, jersey, meal replacement drinks, batteries, etc. Drop bag
at Greenville for meal replacement drinks and batteries. etc.
5. Cycle primarily in the aerobic range from 50 to 75%, e.g., maximize use
of body fat stores and minimize fatigue!
6. Sleep 3+ hours at Adin outbound and Susanville inbound. Power-sleep
inbound at Greenville and Oroville, as necessary.
7. Use fenders and 700x28 randonneur tyres.
Robert
"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live."--Mark Twain
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Gross" <jgross@stimpy.net>
To: <randon@topica.com>; <goldrushriders@dbclist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets

Like many on this list, I intend to complete the Davis Gold Rush in
July. Up until today the longest rides I've done are a bunch of
doubles, where I manage my clothing by wearing arm/knee/toe warmers
and a vest during the morning/evening sections. These all stuff nicely
into my jersey pockets during the hot day, but I wouldn't want to wear
them all night since they're not warm enough.
The GRR promises to be hot during the day and cold at night, meaning
that I'll need to warmer layers for night riding. Even though I'll
have drop bags where I can have warmer clothing waiting for me, I'm
not going to make any assumptions about where I'll be when it gets
cold and dark.
In general I'm thinking I'll need the following
Base Layer: Shorts, short sleeve Jersey, defeet wooleator socks, short
finger gloves.
For temps <70 and >55: Arm/knee/toe warmers, vest, thin long fingered
gloves.
Below 50 (especially at night when I don't have the sun warming me) I
need to add a few items like long sleeve jersey layer, a thin
windbreaker jacket, and possibly thicker gloves and full
booties. Along with some supplies and extra food, this won't all fit
in my jersey pockets and under-seat pack.
What kind of solutions do people generally employ for carrying (or not
carrying) the stuff they need on these long events? I have a decent
commuter bike with a Tubus rack and trunk, and also have a CF road
bike that weighs about 10lb less and is much more comfortable.
My question can be broken down as follows

- What do you carry with you on a Brevet (clothing, supplies, etc)

- How do you carry it? (ie: full rack, seat post rack, carradice, etc)

- What do you put in your drop bags.

- Any other logistic tips.

Much of the fun of the Brevets is learning how to work out these
logistics. Looking forward to your suggestions.

Joe


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--=_alternative 00636C3088256FE1_=-- From jgross@stimpy.net Tue Apr 12 11:21:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from stimpy.net (dsl081-053-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.128]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779DF942A1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stimpy.net (Postfix, from userid 314) id E991018E206; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:21:54 -0700 From: Joe Gross To: Eric S Nordman Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Message-ID: <20050412182154.GA14516@felix.stimpy.net> References: <006501c53f1e$43ccef40$f077bc43@hsd1.ca.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org cc: randon@topica.com X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:21:55 -0000 On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:05:58AM -0700, Eric S Nordman wrote: > While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of long > rides. As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to the > seat post and accept paniers. I plan to use a trunk on the rack rather > than paniers. Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup > from detour. He purchased the expandable version. This setup is much > lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such as > the GRR. > Here is a link to the company site. My friend bought it at REI but I > didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any more. > > http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=61&osCsid=cfc8358b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4 I've seen this one in person and it looks perfect. I'm ordering it for my events as well. > It sounds like I will need to get a camelback. I usually carry two > waterbottles but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride. > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback. Since my back and neck are going to hurt enough as it is, I'm sticking with two bottles. I did find some larger bottles that hold 33 oz of water that work fairly well for me. With two bottles I can hold as much as I would in my 70oz Camelbak. http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=17078&subcategory_ID=4341 If you want a camelback I've been pretty happy with the Classic. It's got a small zipper pocket good for a phone and wallet and some bungie cords to hold a jacket. Joe From rhawks@lmi.net Tue Apr 12 11:34:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imap.lmi.net (nagios.lmi.net [66.117.140.245]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EC2942A1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.lmi.net (imap.lmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3CIY4qY028573 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:04 -0700 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j3CIY3I0028572 for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: imap.lmi.net: webmail set sender to rhawks@lmi.net using -f Received: from apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net (apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net [209.81.57.97]) by webmail.lmi.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1113330843.425c149bb4137@webmail.lmi.net> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:34:03 -0700 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets References: <006501c53f1e$43ccef40$f077bc43@hsd1.ca.comcast.net> <20050412182154.GA14516@felix.stimpy.net> In-Reply-To: <20050412182154.GA14516@felix.stimpy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 209.81.57.97 X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:34:05 -0000 Quoting Joe Gross : > > It sounds like I will need to get a camelback. I usually carry two > > waterbottles but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride. > > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback. > > Since my back and neck are going to hurt enough as it is, I'm sticking > with two bottles. I did find some larger bottles that hold 33 oz of > water that work fairly well for me. With two bottles I can hold as > much as I would in my 70oz Camelbak. > > http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=17078&subcategory_ID=4341 > > If you want a camelback I've been pretty happy with the Classic. It's > got a small zipper pocket good for a phone and wallet and some bungie > cords to hold a jacket. In reading Jim Bradbury's write up of the 2001 Gold Rush (a great read I thought) he notes that the use of the camelback complicated his routines at controls or any time he needed to deal with clothing changes, etc. Admitting that it is very largely a personal issue, I myself have lately found that the less on my person, be it a messenger bag, camelback, or even stuffed pockets, the better it is for me. As for choice of bag for carrying things, I'm going with a Carridice Pendle. I don't think the profile of the Pendle, being wider than 'trunk racks' is an issue, as it doesn't extend out the sides more than I myself 'extend', if you know what I mean. As for water bottles, on the recommendation of my friend Jack Holmgren, I started using those huge Zefal water bottles and aside from the minimal leaking when you squeeze to hard and fast when the bottle is full, they are fine and the extra water (relative to the older, smaller bottles I used) extends my range on the bike. Take this all with a grain of salt. I'm a rookie on anything beyond double centuries. rob hawks richmond, ca From fancylug2000@yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 11:51:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web52503.mail.yahoo.com (web52503.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.124]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0358942A1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20655 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Apr 2005 18:51:39 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=O2VtL0bo3IXA9QM4mLN/oxl0N15rhZaDBkEi3fMrKZEr0ssOummGZ7RPXZMepDETKPopIUGgpYo/AjLcnl2Q6mvFdoHgFtZ5DbVAv8l2m3Aj5XQmwLOcmthBgraC9PCcFRb3HjE2qQ3W8SOriDBvAU/hArWi7XGLZPlS3LL2c80= ; Message-ID: <20050412185139.20651.qmail@web52503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [162.119.64.113] by web52503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:51:38 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: timothy bartoe Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets To: rhawks@lmi.net, Gold Rush In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1017107073-1113331898=:18944" X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:51:40 -0000 --0-1017107073-1113331898=:18944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Another option for water is the Tallac double water bottle holder. At first I didn't care for this product but it's growing on me for longer rides. I used it on Saturday for a 200K and it allowed me to carry 3 bottles on my bike and I never had less then one bottle all day. I carried a 28oz bottle and a 20 oz bottle on the double cage and another 28oz bottle in the other cage. That's nearly the same if not more then a full camelbak. I would much rather do this then have anything on my back. Also, a point a reference, 70oz of water is about 5 pounds of weight and that's not counting the weight of the bag etc. Tim --0-1017107073-1113331898=:18944 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Another option for water is the Tallac double water bottle holder.  At first I didn't care for this product but it's growing on me for longer rides.  I used it on Saturday for a 200K and it allowed me to carry 3 bottles on my bike and I never had less then one bottle all day.  I carried a 28oz bottle and a 20 oz bottle on the double cage and another 28oz bottle in the other cage.  That's nearly the same if not more then a full camelbak.  I would much rather do this then have anything on my back.  Also, a point a reference, 70oz of water is about 5 pounds of weight and that's not counting the weight of the bag etc.
 
Tim

--0-1017107073-1113331898=:18944-- From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Tue Apr 12 11:59:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (wbmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.218]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC817942A1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) j3CIx136020231; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:59:05 -0400 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j3CIwMux011930; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:58:22 -0400 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j3CIwHLu011901; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:58:17 -0400 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:58:17 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:58:16 -0400 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC009CF68@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Thread-Index: AcU/jPy3fJqJrzCwRYuAGZVTzmNUWwAALZew From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: "Joe Gross" , "Eric S Nordman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2005 18:58:17.0386 (UTC) FILETIME=[964550A0:01C53F91] cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org cc: randon@topica.com X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:59:15 -0000 Joe, Not certain what sort of climate you usually ride in, but in 2001 the temp at the 6 PM start of the GRR was down to 95 degrees. As I recall, the finish was equally warm! My tandem partner and I ended up waiting in Oroville till close to sunset to avoid that heat on the return! I'm from a cooler climate, New York on the Canadian border, and went through a full Camelback within the first 30 miles. In addition to that I carried two bottles on the bike, one with liquid nutrition, one with more water. I also used a lot of endurolytes, to keep the electrolyte levels up. They work for me and can be found at: http://www.e-caps.com/za/ECP?PAGE=3DPRODUCT&CAT=3DSUPFUELS&PROD.ID=3D4037= &OMI=3D &AMI=3D&uir=3Dproduct.category,SUPFUELS,Fuels%20%26%20Supplements I've used the Zefal bottles and they work fine, and I'll probably use one or two of them in addition to the Camelback again this year. To lighten the load, during the cooler stretches I won't fill everything. An empty bottle doesn't weigh much, and can be left in a drop bag. I'd suggest you consider starting with a Camelback, it can always be dropped at the bag drop, and recovered again on the way back for the final dash, or not. As I recall, unless the route changes from 2001, there was only about one town between Davis and Oroville, and few doors to knock on and beg for water. (Someone more knowledgeable please correct me if I'm wrong.) I really hate carrying anything on my back, especially in the heat, but I find the convenience of sucking on the straw and capacity help keep me hydrated. It's also a great place to pin the cue sheet, oops, not riding tandem this year, never mind that one! Running out of water in the first hundred miles of a 1200k and getting dehydrated is a "Bad Thing" to have happen, and tough or impossible to recover from! It can really mess up the rest of the ride! If you do decide to get a Camelback, be certain to use it on your training rides, just to get used to carrying the extra weight. Of course, your mileage may vary. If you're a desert rat and can get by in 110 degree weather with little to drink, don't bother! Pete -----Original Message----- From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of Joe Gross Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:22 PM To: Eric S Nordman Cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org; randon@topica.com Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:05:58AM -0700, Eric S Nordman wrote: > While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of long=20 > rides. As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to the=20 > seat post and accept paniers. I plan to use a trunk on the rack rather=20 > than paniers. Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup > from detour. He purchased the expandable version. This setup is much > lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such as=20 > the GRR.=20 > Here is a link to the company site. My friend bought it at REI but I=20 > didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any more. >=20 > http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3D61&osCsid=3Dcfc8= 358 b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4 I've seen this one in person and it looks perfect. I'm ordering it for my events as well. > It sounds like I will need to get a camelback. I usually carry two=20 > waterbottles but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride.=20 > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback. Since my back and neck are going to hurt enough as it is, I'm sticking with two bottles. I did find some larger bottles that hold 33 oz of water that work fairly well for me. With two bottles I can hold as much as I would in my 70oz Camelbak. http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=3D17078&subcategory_I= D =3D4341 If you want a camelback I've been pretty happy with the Classic. It's got a small zipper pocket good for a phone and wallet and some bungie cords to hold a jacket. Joe _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From jgross@stimpy.net Tue Apr 12 12:31:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from stimpy.net (dsl081-053-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.128]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18780942A1 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stimpy.net (Postfix, from userid 314) id 6C20318E206; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:31:11 -0700 From: Joe Gross To: "Dusel, Peter W" Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Message-ID: <20050412193111.GA17215@felix.stimpy.net> References: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC009CF68@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC009CF68@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org cc: randon@topica.com X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:31:12 -0000 On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:58:16PM -0400, Dusel, Peter W wrote: > > > I'd suggest you consider starting with a Camelback, it can > always be dropped at the bag drop, and recovered again on the way back > for the final dash, or not. As I recall, unless the route changes from > 2001, there was only about one town between Davis and Oroville, and few > doors to knock on and beg for water. (Someone more knowledgeable please > correct me if I'm wrong.) That's a good point. According to the posted route, the longest stretch between water controls is between Davis and Oraville at 101 miles. Carrying a camelback+bottles until the first stop at Oraville seems like a good idea. I can drop it off at Greenville and then pick it up on my way back. Between Greenville the longest stretch between controls is 43 miles between Adin and Altaras. Seems like that can easily be done on two big 33oz bottles. I used a camelback all last year on Doubles but after spending the last few months commuting to work with bottles I've come to appreciate not having heavy things on my back. If it promises to be hot I'll definitely bring the camelback. Getting a little dehydrated on a "short" ride like a double isn't going to have the same deleterious effect as getting dehydrated on a longer event such as this. Needless to say I'll be bringing more than I need to the start so that if I need any last minute adjustments in plans I won't be stranded. Thanks for the discussion. I think this is extremely helpful. Joe From dkinkade@sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 12 18:09:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web80109.mail.yahoo.com (web80109.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.82]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D1A29428C for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20050413010955.65531.qmail@web80109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.205.198.5] by web80109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:09:55 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Kinkade Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets To: Eric S Nordman In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1700473445-1113354595=:59331" cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:09:55 -0000 --0-1700473445-1113354595=:59331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used a Camelbak Rocket on the Davis 300K and didn't feel much effect from the wind. I carry HEED in the Rocket and Perpetuem in the bottles to keep fueled and hydrated on longer rides. Also used to the Rocket since doing long rides in NV usually means limited services and I hate to see buzzards circling. Dan Eric S Nordman wrote: Joe: While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of long rides. As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to the seat post and accept paniers. I plan to use a trunk on the rack rather than paniers. Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup from detour. He purchased the expandable version. This setup is much lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such as the GRR. Here is a link to the company site. My friend bought it at REI but I didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any more. http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=61&osCsid=cfc8358b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4 It sounds like I will need to get a camelback. I usually carry two waterbottles but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback. --Eric Nordman "rahabdas" Sent by: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org 04/11/2005 10:12 PM To , , cc Subject [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Hello Joe! I did not see responses to your inquiry on the lists, but here's my skinny: 1. Hydration and nutrition: 100 oz. camelback and two large water bottles. Meal replacement drinks for 50-60% of total nutritional requirements. 2. Clothing layers: Four (4) layers of clothing above and two (2) layers below the waist: short sleeve jersey; long sleeve jersey; light wind breaker; rain coat; bib shorts and long tights. 3. A rear trunk rack to carry clothing, food, tools, etc. 4. Drop bags at Adin and Susanville to contain sleeping clothes, shower kit, bib shorts, socks, jersey, meal replacement drinks, batteries, etc. Drop bag at Greenville for meal replacement drinks and batteries. etc. 5. Cycle primarily in the aerobic range from 50 to 75%, e.g., maximize use of body fat stores and minimize fatigue! 6. Sleep 3+ hours at Adin outbound and Susanville inbound. Power-sleep inbound at Greenville and Oroville, as necessary. 7. Use fenders and 700x28 randonneur tyres. Robert "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live."--Mark Twain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Gross" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Like many on this list, I intend to complete the Davis Gold Rush in July. Up until today the longest rides I've done are a bunch of doubles, where I manage my clothing by wearing arm/knee/toe warmers and a vest during the morning/evening sections. These all stuff nicely into my jersey pockets during the hot day, but I wouldn't want to wear them all night since they're not warm enough. The GRR promises to be hot during the day and cold at night, meaning that I'll need to warmer layers for night riding. Even though I'll have drop bags where I can have warmer clothing waiting for me, I'm not going to make any assumptions about where I'll be when it gets cold and dark. In general I'm thinking I'll need the following Base Layer: Shorts, short sleeve Jersey, defeet wooleator socks, short finger gloves. For temps <70 and >55: Arm/knee/toe warmers, vest, thin long fingered gloves. Below 50 (especially at night when I don't have the sun warming me) I need to add a few items like long sleeve jersey layer, a thin windbreaker jacket, and possibly thicker gloves and full booties. Along with some supplies and extra food, this won't all fit in my jersey pockets and under-seat pack. What kind of solutions do people generally employ for carrying (or not carrying) the stuff they need on these long events? I have a decent commuter bike with a Tubus rack and trunk, and also have a CF road bike that weighs about 10lb less and is much more comfortable. My question can be broken down as follows - What do you carry with you on a Brevet (clothing, supplies, etc) - How do you carry it? (ie: full rack, seat post rack, carradice, etc) - What do you put in your drop bags. - Any other logistic tips. Much of the fun of the Brevets is learning how to work out these logistics. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joe _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders --0-1700473445-1113354595=:59331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I used a Camelbak Rocket on the Davis 300K and didn't feel much effect from the wind.  I carry HEED in the Rocket and Perpetuem in the bottles to keep fueled and hydrated on longer rides.  Also used to the Rocket since doing long rides in NV usually means limited services and I hate to see buzzards circling.
Dan

Eric S Nordman <nordmaes@appliedbiosystems.com> wrote:

Joe:
While I have rode many doubles this also will be my first series of long rides.  As I commute I already have one a topeak rack that mounts to the seat post and accept paniers.  I plan to use a trunk on the rack rather than paniers.  Recently a friend of mine purchased a light trunk setup from detour.  He purchased the expandable version.  This setup is much lighter than what I have and seemed a good choice for a long ride such as the GRR.
Here is a link to the company site.  My friend bought it at REI but I didn't see it in their on line catalog so they may not carry it any more.

http://detours.us/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=61&osCsid=cfc8358b882078bbed6b7fc035ed94a4

It sounds like I will need to get a camelback.  I usually carry two waterbottles  but this sounds like it will not be enough for this ride.  Does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for in a camelback.
--Eric Nordman






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Hello Joe!
I did not see responses to your inquiry on the lists, but here's my skinny:
1. Hydration and nutrition: 100 oz. camelback and two large water bottles.
Meal replacement drinks for 50-60% of total nutritional requirements.
2. Clothing layers: Four (4) layers of clothing above and two (2) layers
below the waist: short sleeve jersey; long sleeve jersey; light wind
breaker; rain coat; bib shorts and long tights.
3. A rear trunk rack to carry clothing, food, tools, etc.
4. Drop bags at Adin and Susanville to contain sleeping clothes, shower kit,
bib shorts, socks, jersey, meal replacement drinks, batteries, etc. Drop bag
at Greenville for meal replacement drinks and batteries. etc.
5. Cycle primarily in the aerobic range from 50 to 75%, e.g., maximize use
of body fat stores and minimize fatigue!
6. Sleep 3+ hours at Adin outbound and Susanville inbound. Power-sleep
inbound at Greenville and Oroville, as necessary.
7. Use fenders and 700x28 randonneur tyres.
Robert
"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live."--Mark Twain
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Gross" <jgross@stimpy.net>
To: <randon@topica.com>; <goldrushriders@dbclist.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets

Like many on this list, I intend to complete the Davis Gold Rush in
July. Up until today the longest rides I've done are a bunch of
doubles, where I manage my clothing by wearing arm/knee/toe warmers
and a vest during the morning/evening sections. These all stuff nicely
into my jersey pockets during the hot day, but I wouldn't want to wear
them all night since they're not warm enough.
The GRR promises to be hot during the day and cold at night, meaning
that I'll need to warmer layers for night riding. Even though I'll
have drop bags where I can have warmer clothing waiting for me, I'm
not going to make any assumptions about where I'll be when it gets
cold and dark.
In general I'm thinking I'll need the following
Base Layer: Shorts, short sleeve Jersey, defeet wooleator socks, short
finger gloves.
For temps <70 and >55: Arm/knee/toe warmers, vest, thin long fingered
gloves.
Below 50 (especially at night when I don't have the sun warming me) I
need to add a few items like long sleeve jersey layer, a thin
windbreaker jacket, and possibly thicker gloves and full
booties. Along with some supplies and extra food, this won't all fit
in my jersey pockets and under-seat pack.
What kind of solutions do people generally employ for carrying (or not
carrying) the stuff they need on these long events? I have a decent
commuter bike with a Tubus rack and trunk, and also have a CF road
bike that weighs about 10lb less and is much more comfortable.
My question can be broken down as follows

- What do you carry with you on a Brevet (clothing, supplies, etc)

- How do you carry it? (ie: full rack, seat post rack, carradice, etc)

- What do you put in your drop bags.

- Any other logistic tips.

Much of the fun of the Brevets is learning how to work out these
logistics. Looking forward to your suggestions.

Joe


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--0-1700473445-1113354595=:59331-- From cycledad@juno.com Tue Apr 12 20:31:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from m09.lax.untd.com (m09.lax.untd.com [64.136.30.72]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9448B9428C for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m09.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m09.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABBF3EVRA6HMW7S for (sender ); Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:30:55 -0700 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: uko6F/Y8EtMJlPUea6IUxqGHUMU8wljQ/SG5rB744UCZQN8XUSfezA== Received: (from cycledad@juno.com) by m09.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id KQFGR23M; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:30:11 PDT To: dkinkade@sbcglobal.net Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:29:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Managing clothing, etc on long brevets Message-ID: <20050412.202943.2680.0.cycledad@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,5-6,10-11,13-25 From: cycledad@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 6:3:1727882215 cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:31:07 -0000 Long Distance Gang- I've done a few long distance cycling events, including 1200K events. I typically carry two water bottles, and on the last GRR sent two drop bags ahead. Each fit in a mailing envelope. I ended up using very little from the drop bags anyway. Keep drinking, as dehydration involves a lengthy and debilitating recovery period. Water will be available relatively easily. Bring a credit card for emergencies (it's light, it works well in California, and it can buy you what you need rather than what you planned on). I carried a Camelbak at the last PBP. I never put any water in it. Oh well. Of course, YMMV. Regards, -Paul "It's Really All Mental" Guttenberg Paul Guttenberg LAB ECI #781 C-K Davis Bike Club Adventure Cycling From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Wed Apr 13 07:08:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (wbmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.218]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00E694208 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.221]) j3DE81pN018790; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:08:05 -0400 Received: from wbmlir1.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j3DE7EnV003113; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:07:14 -0400 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j3DE7Cxk003067; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:07:14 -0400 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:07:11 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:07:11 -0400 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC009CF6A@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: News E-Mails from 2001 running Thread-Index: AcU/jqIHckHkFxQ4SVGkAkiv+2XBPgAosoWw From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: "Joe GoldRush" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2005 14:07:12.0019 (UTC) FILETIME=[16838E30:01C54032] cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: [GRRiders] News E-Mails from 2001 running X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:08:08 -0000 Joe, If you have no objections, and anybody wants them, I have all the news releases you e-mailed out during the 2001 running of the GRR, available to post to the news list. Might give some folks some info about what they're getting into! Also, putting the web page back up with the riders check in/out times from 2001 might help people plan their expectations for this running. Pete From fancylug2000@yahoo.com Wed Apr 13 09:15:58 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web52506.mail.yahoo.com (web52506.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.127]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46A6C9428C for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27621 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 2005 16:15:50 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=mE2f4BFoHgtZ5U+IvYWM2+794GMJZfSefMpOBKFtv8x6YXiWF/TAoTL3p94zO+NZDRJL3pK3dS7USwEs/el0BAfcW4JYkTvl8GWDzYyUYMyBTTdGhSHH7zlkLKN3buBChDt2i31A87XciQkGWkdH/7c3WIkex22q8SwEo427jKc= ; Message-ID: <20050413161550.27619.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [162.119.64.113] by web52506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:15:50 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: timothy bartoe To: Gold Rush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-372855679-1113408950=:27501" Subject: [GRRiders] Now I've gone and done it. X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:15:59 -0000 --0-372855679-1113408950=:27501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was a little on the fence about wanting to take on the Gold Rush but as of today I'm officially off the fence. I just posted my registration for a 600k in Santa Rosa and the Gold Rush. Now, the only think I have to do is actually ride the 300k, 400k and 600K and finish to get to the starting line of the Gold Rush. If riding a 200k at what I'd guess was far less then full strength and still finishing is any indication I should be OK. The plan is to ride the Santa Cruz 300k a week from Saturday and then the Davis 400K two weeks after that. In between the 400K and 600K I'll ride a double century not so much for time but for fun. All, this has me wondering about a couple of things. If your riding a brevet pretty much every other week what type of riding do you do in between? I know this week I'm taking it rather easy to help get over a cold, but I wonder if it's best to do that between each long weekend? Anyone know of any tricks of the trade? Tim --0-372855679-1113408950=:27501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I was a little on the fence about wanting to take on the Gold Rush but as of today I'm officially off the fence.  I just posted my registration for a 600k in Santa Rosa and the Gold Rush. 
 
Now, the only think I have to do is actually ride the 300k, 400k and 600K and finish to get to the starting line of the Gold Rush. 
 
If riding a 200k at what I'd guess was far less then full strength and still finishing is any indication I should be OK.  The plan is to ride the Santa Cruz 300k a week from Saturday and then the Davis 400K two weeks after that.  In between the 400K and 600K I'll ride a double century not so much for time but for fun. 
 
All, this has me wondering about a couple of things.  If your riding a brevet pretty much every other week what type of riding do you do in between?  I know this week I'm taking it rather easy to help get over a cold, but I wonder if it's best to do that between each long weekend?  Anyone know of any tricks of the trade? 
 
Tim
--0-372855679-1113408950=:27501-- From jgross@stimpy.net Wed Apr 13 09:35:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from stimpy.net (dsl081-053-128.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.128]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F17C9428C for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by stimpy.net (Postfix, from userid 314) id DBB6918E208; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:35:31 -0700 From: Joe Gross To: timothy bartoe Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Now I've gone and done it. Message-ID: <20050413163531.GA72360@felix.stimpy.net> References: <20050413161550.27619.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050413161550.27619.qmail@web52506.mail.yahoo.com> cc: Gold Rush X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:35:32 -0000 On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:15:50AM -0700, timothy bartoe wrote: > I was a little on the fence about wanting to take on the Gold Rush but as of today I'm officially off the fence. I just posted my registration for a 600k in Santa Rosa and the Gold Rush. Welcome to our side of the fence! > All, this has me wondering about a couple of things. If your riding a brevet pretty much every other week what type of riding do you do in between? I know this week I'm taking it rather easy to help get over a cold, but I wonder if it's best to do that between each long weekend? Anyone know of any tricks of the trade? I've found that it takes me more than we week to recover completely from a really difficult event. It's less about the legs as it is my butt healing. Last year I did the ToTF double followed by the Knoxville double and my performance on the Knoxville was abysmal, mostly due to not being able to get comfortable in the saddle and still being tired. I once asked Dave Evans of California Triple Crown fame how does so many doubles in a row week after week. His answer was that he pretty much sleeps all week. While maybe not an option for us working folks it stresses the need for coming into an important event fresh. A ton of training won't do you any good if it leaves you tired for when it really matters. I'd recommend taking it "easy" the weekend before an event that matters. What that means could be different for different types of riders. For me taking it easy means nothing more than a 200k, and certainly not a difficult double. I've planned all my brevets and doubles this year with at least one off week between. All my training is a 60mi round trip commute to/from work on Tuesday/Thursday plus weekends. I find that if I take it easy on Thursday I'm still fresh for whatever event I have planned on the weekend. Joe From zakaplan@earthlink.net Wed Apr 13 09:52:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.254]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF309428C for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-2ivfi8u.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.201.30]) by pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1DLl5m-0005m7-00; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:51:54 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:52:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Now I've gone and done it. From: Zach Kaplan To: Joe Gross , timothy bartoe Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050413163531.GA72360@felix.stimpy.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit cc: Gold Rush X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:52:05 -0000 on 2005/4/13 9:35, Joe Gross at jgross-dbc@stimpy.net wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:15:50AM -0700, timothy bartoe wrote: >> All, this has me wondering about a couple of things. If your riding a brevet >> pretty much every other week what type of riding do you do in between? I >> know this week I'm taking it rather easy to help get over a cold, but I >> wonder if it's best to do that between each long weekend? Anyone know of any >> tricks of the trade? > > I've found that it takes me more than we week to recover completely > from a really difficult event. It's less about the legs as it is my > butt healing. Last year I did the ToTF double followed by the > Knoxville double and my performance on the Knoxville was abysmal, > mostly due to not being able to get comfortable in the saddle and > still being tired. I've done doubles two weekends in a row a number of times and haven't had saddle pains as I ride a recumbent. I have had knee pains when I do too many hard rides back to back but the knee pains have been greatly reduced since I started using Rotor Cranks last year a week prior to the Terrible Two. I didn't have any knee pain on the TT, a first for me. Now I just need to figure out a way of doing long rides on hot days without getting nauseated. I hope the weather is cool on the GRR. > I once asked Dave Evans of California Triple Crown fame how does so > many doubles in a row week after week. His answer was that he pretty > much sleeps all week. I guess he is retired or unemployed. > I'd recommend taking it "easy" the weekend before an event that > matters. What that means could be different for different types of > riders. For me taking it easy means nothing more than a 200k, and > certainly not a difficult double. I've planned all my brevets and > doubles this year with at least one off week between. All my training > is a 60mi round trip commute to/from work on Tuesday/Thursday plus > weekends. I find that if I take it easy on Thursday I'm still fresh > for whatever event I have planned on the weekend. That sounds like a good plan but my plan hasn't worked out that way. I'm signed up for the Tour of the Unknown Coast on 7 May, Santa Rosa 400 km on 14 May, Davis Double on 21 May and Santa Rosa 600 km on 28 May. I'll have to not go particularly hard on any of these rides and focus on just finishing them at a moderate pace. I should also sign up for the SF 600 km on 4 June in case I don't finish the Santa Rosa 600 km. Then I can just slack off and recover the rest of the month of June except it is tempting to try the Terrible Two again as it will be the original longer course this year. -------------------------------------------- Zach Kaplan Cycles Alameda, Northern California, North America 510-522-BENT (2368) zakaplan@earthlink.net From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Wed Apr 13 10:48:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wbmler2.mail.xerox.com (wbmler2.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.217]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68A69428C for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.222]) j3DHm1TZ017374; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:48:03 -0400 Received: from wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j3DHldLC030317; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:47:39 -0400 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j3DHldK2030307; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:47:39 -0400 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:47:39 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C54050.E2516D0A" Subject: RE: [GRRiders] Now I've gone and done it. Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:47:38 -0400 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC0A7E160@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRRiders] Now I've gone and done it. Thread-Index: AcVARIs4m/04E4Q8QIqfNWB1B7clyAAC0vew From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: "timothy bartoe" , "Gold Rush" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2005 17:47:39.0308 (UTC) FILETIME=[E297AEC0:01C54050] X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:48:04 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C54050.E2516D0A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim, Glad you've made a commitment! =20 Between close packed long rides I usually do recovery. This involves "easy", by your definition, rides. Easy spinning, no killing yourself, lots of stretching, appropriate nutrition, and plenty of rest and sleep. =20 I do wonder though, when you say: >I'll ride a double century not so much for time but for fun. =20 =20 You may normally ride a (non brevet) double for time, but all brevets should be ridden for fun, one of the joys of brevets is that they are not competitive. Some take this to an extreme, the first person to complete the GRR in 2001, Michael Lau, stopped for an eight hour nap at the hotel across from the finish before he checked into the finish control. He had met his personal goal, and left the glory of being first finisher to somebody else. =20 Of course, on a 1200k you get to ride back to back to back doubles, followed by a century and a half. More fun than the human body should have at one time!! =20 Pete -----Original Message----- From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of timothy bartoe Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:16 PM To: Gold Rush Subject: [GRRiders] Now I've gone and done it. =09 =09 I was a little on the fence about wanting to take on the Gold Rush but as of today I'm officially off the fence. I just posted my registration for a 600k in Santa Rosa and the Gold Rush. =20 =20 Now, the only think I have to do is actually ride the 300k, 400k and 600K and finish to get to the starting line of the Gold Rush. =20 =20 If riding a 200k at what I'd guess was far less then full strength and still finishing is any indication I should be OK. The plan is to ride the Santa Cruz 300k a week from Saturday and then the Davis 400K two weeks after that. In between the 400K and 600K I'll ride a double century not so much for time but for fun. =20 =20 All, this has me wondering about a couple of things. If your riding a brevet pretty much every other week what type of riding do you do in between? I know this week I'm taking it rather easy to help get over a cold, but I wonder if it's best to do that between each long weekend? Anyone know of any tricks of the trade? =20 =20 Tim ------_=_NextPart_001_01C54050.E2516D0A Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Tim,
    Glad you've made a = commitment!
 
    Between close packed long rides I usually do=20 recovery.
    This involves "easy", by your definition, = rides. Easy=20 spinning, no killing yourself, lots of stretching, appropriate = nutrition, and=20 plenty of rest and sleep.
 
    I do wonder though, when you = say:
>I'll ride a double century not = so much=20 for time but for fun. 
   
    You may normally ride a (non brevet) double for = time, but=20 all brevets should be ridden for fun, one of the joys of brevets is that = they=20 are not competitive. Some take this to an extreme, the first person to = complete=20 the GRR in 2001, Michael Lau, stopped for an eight hour nap at the hotel = across=20 from the finish before he checked into the finish control. He had met = his=20 personal goal, and left the glory of being first finisher to somebody=20 else.
 
    Of course, on a 1200k you get to ride back to = back to back=20 doubles, followed by a century and a half. More fun than the human body = should=20 have at one time!!
 
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org = [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org]=20 On Behalf Of timothy bartoe
Sent: Wednesday, April = 13, 2005=20 12:16 PM
To: Gold Rush
Subject: [GRRiders] Now = I've gone=20 and done it.

I was a little on the fence about wanting to take on the Gold = Rush but as=20 of today I'm officially off the fence.  I just posted my = registration for=20 a 600k in Santa Rosa and the Gold Rush. 
 
Now, the only think I have to do is actually ride the 300k, 400k = and 600K=20 and finish to get to the starting line of the Gold Rush. 
 
If riding a 200k at what I'd guess was far less then full = strength and=20 still finishing is any indication I should be OK.  The plan is to = ride=20 the Santa Cruz 300k a week from Saturday and then the Davis = 400K two=20 weeks after that.  In between the 400K and 600K I'll ride a = double=20 century not so much for time but for fun. 
 
All, this has me wondering about a couple of things.  If = your riding=20 a brevet pretty much every other week what type of riding do you do in = between?  I know this week I'm taking it rather easy to help get = over a=20 cold, but I wonder if it's best to do that between each long = weekend? =20 Anyone know of any tricks of the trade? 
 
Tim
------_=_NextPart_001_01C54050.E2516D0A-- From GoldRushInfo@davisbikeclub.org Wed Apr 13 13:25:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from pop22.ucdavis.edu (pop22.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.12]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEDF9428C for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Crocker.CNL.UCDavis.Edu ([169.237.146.6]) j3DKPAea017812 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] by Crocker.Crocker.UCDavis.Edu (NTMail 4.30.0013/NT0504.00.2f9777c4) with ESMTP id sfbvcaaa for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:24:54 +0900 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050413123253.01aa9db0@crocker.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: GoldRushInfo.DBC@crocker.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:24:53 -0700 To: Mike Sturgill From: Joe GoldRush In-Reply-To: <425D6853.2080705@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: [GRRiders] Re: Water X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:25:11 -0000 Hi Mike and others. This is Joe! I'm glad to see the conversations picking up on the list. It's a good place to discuss all the experiences and ideas surrounding the GRR. In 2001 we knew that the distance between Davis and Oroville would be too great without a source of water and snacks, especially given the temperature for the first hour of the ride. For that reason we put in an unannounced water stop along the route just as it left the river at about mile 50. This year the route sheet will show this as a "Water Stop" as we've decided it was a good idea and we should allow people to plan their water capacities accordingly. Just a note however, the group was fairly large still at the 50 mile mark and some of those who took advantage of the water stop were glad to have an excuse not to ride so hard. Calmer groups formed and good times were had by all! -Joe At 11:43 AM 4/13/05 -0700, Mike Sturgill wrote: >Hello, > >I was wondering if there are any locations between Davis and Oroville in >which riders can reasonably expect to get water? Food should be easy >enough to carry for that distance, but water may not be. Since I don't >know if the routes are the same both outbound and inbound, the same >question applies to both directions. > >Thanks, >-Mike From jvoelz@pobox.com Wed Apr 13 13:39:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB76E9428C for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout6-ext.prodigy.net (pimout6-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.78])j3DKdDlC027560 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:39:14 -0400 X-ORBL: [216.103.81.213] Received: from 1pf0i.postoffice.pacbell.net (adsl-216-103-81-213.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.81.213]) j3DKdAbH046682; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:39:11 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20050413133230.01299cc8@postoffice.pacbell.net> X-Sender: jvoelz@postoffice.pacbell.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:39:17 -0700 To: Joe GoldRush , Mike Sturgill From: Joel Voelz Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Water In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050413123253.01aa9db0@crocker.ucdavis.edu> References: <425D6853.2080705@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:39:14 -0000 Thanks Joe! This is great news. Having a water stop at mile 50 eliminates the need to have a tanker truck follow me out of Davis. I thought it was kind of bizarre that the GRR would have a greater distance (an impossible distance for mere mortals like me not going 20+ mph as the mutants do) to the first water stop than PBP - and all without the hundreds of villagers out at night with snacks and water refills. 50 miles to the first water stop is now very reasonable and lets people use a more normal water supply -- IE 2-3 bottles or a smaller Camelbak and a bottle, etc. I got used to using a Camelbak for PBP 2003 but still hated it -- and given the availability of water from people along the route it was not really necessary. Cheers, Joel Voelz At 01:24 PM 4/13/2005 -0700, Joe GoldRush wrote: >Hi Mike and others. >This is Joe! > >I'm glad to see the conversations picking up on the list. It's a good >place to discuss all the experiences and ideas surrounding the GRR. > >In 2001 we knew that the distance between Davis and Oroville would be too >great without a source of water and snacks, especially given the >temperature for the first hour of the ride. >For that reason we put in an unannounced water stop along the route just >as it left the river at about mile 50. >This year the route sheet will show this as a "Water Stop" as we've >decided it was a good idea and we should allow people to plan their water >capacities accordingly. >Just a note however, the group was fairly large still at the 50 mile mark >and some of those who took advantage of the water stop were glad to have >an excuse not to ride so hard. Calmer groups formed and good times were >had by all! >-Joe > At 11:43 AM 4/13/05 -0700, Mike Sturgill wrote: >>Hello, >> >>I was wondering if there are any locations between Davis and Oroville in >>which riders can reasonably expect to get water? Food should be easy >>enough to carry for that distance, but water may not be. Since I don't >>know if the routes are the same both outbound and inbound, the same >>question applies to both directions. >> >>Thanks, >>-Mike > >_______________________________________________ >GoldRushRiders mailing list >GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org >http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders Joel Voelz PBP Ancien 2003 Business Jedi and Cyclist jvoelz@pobox.com ----- _~O --- .\ <; (*)-/-(*) From kothm@gsilumonics.com Sun Apr 17 00:48:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from lumomunmail.lumonics.de (mail.gsilumonics.de [62.245.171.37]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7991393DB3 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lumomunmail.lumonics.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:49:41 +0200 Message-ID: <2F1F60495325C94A8BB8AC8D00D192B30498E1@lumomunmail.lumonics.de> From: "Koth, Michael" To: "'goldrushriders@dbclist.org'" Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:49:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [GRRiders] registration for GRR / confirmation ? X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:48:05 -0000 registration for GRR / confirmation ?

Hello,

I sent my registration form by mail in week 13 but I don't know what's going on.

How do I know that I'm a registered rider so I can book my flights from Germany?
Will there be a list of reg. riders on the web site like the list for interested riders?

Best regards

Michael Koth
Germany

From ppiltch@pathcom.com Sun Apr 17 11:51:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp.tor.pathcom.com (smtp.tor.pathcom.com [209.250.128.26]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4B593DB3 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([207.188.88.223]) by smtp.tor.pathcom.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j3HIpoD0022590 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:51:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4262AFBB.5010303@pathcom.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:49:31 -0400 From: Phil Piltch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Water References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050413123253.01aa9db0@crocker.ucdavis.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20050413123253.01aa9db0@crocker.ucdavis.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:51:52 -0000 Joe GoldRush wrote: <> > In 2001 we knew that the distance between Davis and Oroville would be > too great without a source of water and snacks, especially given the > temperature for the first hour of the ride. For that reason we put in > an unannounced water stop along the route just as it left the river at > about mile 50. This year the route sheet will show this as a "Water > Stop" as we've decided it was a good idea and we should allow people > to plan their water capacities accordingly. Just a note however, the > group was fairly large still at the 50 mile mark and some of those who > took advantage of the water stop were glad to have an excuse not to > ride so hard. Calmer groups formed and good times were had by all! > -Joe Good news about the water stop. I recall when I did Rocky Mountain 1200 in 2002 that with services few and far between, getting water was often a challenge. I don't use a Camelbak - my normal setup is with two 750mm bottles, but on RM1200 I had a small water bottle to carry extra water. Even that didn't always suffice. What is the longest interval between water stops while in the mountains? Someone in my club who is also doing Gold Rush mentioned that a secondary lighting system was mandatory. I normally ride with two lighting systems, but rarely use the secondary one - my primary is a Shimano hub generator powering a Lumotec 2.4W halogen and a Union 0.6W taillight. The secondary headlight I was going to use is a Planet Bike Powerspot 1W LED light. Is the acceptable? Phil -- Phillip Piltch 11 Hollydene Road Scarborough, ON M1L 2A4 From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Sun Apr 17 12:06:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.83]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FCB793DB3 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@67.121.81.168 with login) by smtp813.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2005 19:06:13 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:06:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Water From: Bill Bryant To: Joe GoldRush Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20050413133230.01299cc8@postoffice.pacbell.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:06:18 -0000 About water for the first leg from Davis to Oroville on the GRR, you'll find the town of Gridley has a few late-night services available. It is well-placed at about mile 80 or so. Topping off the bottles (and getting a hit of caffeinated drinks) at the 7-11 store was a popular tactic in 2001. Personally, I'm not much into Camelbaks and randonneuring for the reasons folks cite (extra weight on the back, trouble with clothing layers, etc)-- but GRR is definitely a ride I would use one on. Keeping up on hydration will be essential to finishing the GRR-- better safe than sorry, IMHO. I think a Camelbak with iced water could make a beneficial difference in several empty stretches during the daytime. That could leave the frame bottles for drinks w/ calories & electrolytes. (I would also use some of those insulated frame bottles, not regular bottles.) Doing everything possible to keep one's beverages cool will be a good thing at the GRR. (Avoiding sunburn with sunscreen and a helmet visor will be smart ideas too.) I think some of the faster guys/gals probably would do fine w/o a Camelbak since their time between towns and controls is fairly short, but for middle of the pack, or back of the pack folks, I would sure want them to start with a Camelbak. And if they find it unnecessary, they can always send it back to Davis in a drop bag. Or give it to me and I'll drive it back. Lois and I will be (wo-)manning the lonely water stop at Eagle Lake (miles 280 & 480), so you can scold me for me there for being too cautious about hydration and the GRR. ;-) Bill Bryant > Thanks Joe! > > This is great news. Having a water stop at mile 50 eliminates the need to > have a tanker truck follow me out of Davis. I thought it was kind of > bizarre that the GRR would have a greater distance (an impossible distance > for mere mortals like me not going 20+ mph as the mutants do) to the first > water stop than PBP - and all without the hundreds of villagers out at > night with snacks and water refills. > > 50 miles to the first water stop is now very reasonable and lets people use > a more normal water supply -- IE 2-3 bottles or a smaller Camelbak and a > bottle, etc. I got used to using a Camelbak for PBP 2003 but still hated it > -- and given the availability of water from people along the route it was > not really necessary. > > Cheers, > > > Joel Voelz > > At 01:24 PM 4/13/2005 -0700, Joe GoldRush wrote: >> Hi Mike and others. >> This is Joe! >> >> I'm glad to see the conversations picking up on the list. It's a good >> place to discuss all the experiences and ideas surrounding the GRR. >> >> In 2001 we knew that the distance between Davis and Oroville would be too >> great without a source of water and snacks, especially given the >> temperature for the first hour of the ride. >> For that reason we put in an unannounced water stop along the route just >> as it left the river at about mile 50. >> This year the route sheet will show this as a "Water Stop" as we've >> decided it was a good idea and we should allow people to plan their water >> capacities accordingly. >> Just a note however, the group was fairly large still at the 50 mile mark >> and some of those who took advantage of the water stop were glad to have >> an excuse not to ride so hard. Calmer groups formed and good times were >> had by all! >> -Joe >> At 11:43 AM 4/13/05 -0700, Mike Sturgill wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I was wondering if there are any locations between Davis and Oroville in >>> which riders can reasonably expect to get water? Food should be easy >>> enough to carry for that distance, but water may not be. Since I don't >>> know if the routes are the same both outbound and inbound, the same >>> question applies to both directions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GoldRushRiders mailing list >> GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org >> http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders > > Joel Voelz > PBP Ancien 2003 > Business Jedi and Cyclist > jvoelz@pobox.com > ----- _~O > --- .\ <; > (*)-/-(*) > > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From bike2work2live@yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 16:00:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from web53006.mail.yahoo.com (web53006.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.196]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36F4D94219 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 75348 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Apr 2005 23:00:13 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=cyqcerRa3MIGXoQD39IhCgo8+rA/h05feD5Zm/6TNcRQLvZgTRQj8UpG8qiKQ/gr0g4iQ3kUzQDAVWvcDefciQPT9W0Yon263RvEPTSEp64nosL9lIAH5tml9h3B2cpT6Lziynv7x3WH7Utkj0NtgSbwHi3SLdsOG1JRbieAQR0= ; Message-ID: <20050418230013.75346.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [159.121.132.59] by web53006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:00:13 PDT Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Kohan To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [GRRiders] Chnage me to a no X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:00:15 -0000 Unfortuanately I will not be able to participate in the Gold Rush. You can change me from a maybe to a no and free up the space for someone else. Keith Kohan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From ridelots@bwss.com Tue Apr 19 07:49:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from audi.webcom.com (audi.webcom.com [192.220.116.144]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E2B94285 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kigal (kigal.webcom.com [192.220.116.57]) by audi.webcom.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id j3JEcMkr009035 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:40:21 -0700 Received: from [65.9.100.224] by inanna (WebCom SMTP 2.0) with SMTP id 66955324; Tue Apr 19 07:47 PDT 2005 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <20050418230013.75346.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050418230013.75346.qmail@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <738b87933881d0a1207022a0337912ef@bwss.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Pyle Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:49:00 -0400 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Subject: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:49:06 -0000 So many details on a ride like this. Does anyone know if there will be somewhere to store a suitcase or bag with street cloths and other items during the ride? Thanks. Dave From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Tue Apr 19 07:55:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wbmler3.mail.xerox.com (wbmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.218]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E42F94285 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) j3JEt6wV014205; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:55:08 -0400 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j3JEsZc9017479; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:54:35 -0400 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j3JEsZsD017474; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:54:35 -0400 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:54:34 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:54:34 -0400 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC0A7E17C@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride Thread-Index: AcVE72B08oprjpyzSGOTaoLNKYBV1QAACfJg From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: "David Pyle" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2005 14:54:34.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[B371A850:01C544EF] X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:55:12 -0000 David, The B&B I stayed at in 2001, a pleasant place to stay, was happy to hold my suitcase during the ride. If you don't get another response, check with the hotel where you are staying. Pete -----Original Message----- From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of David Pyle Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:49 AM To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride So many details on a ride like this. Does anyone know if there will be=20 somewhere to store a suitcase or bag with street cloths and other items=20 during the ride? Thanks. Dave _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From ppiltch@pathcom.com Tue Apr 19 14:34:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp.tor.pathcom.com (smtp.tor.pathcom.com [209.250.128.26]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B659942A3 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (rdsl-0935.tor.pathcom.com [207.188.65.167] (may be forged)) by smtp.tor.pathcom.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j3JLYLD0017028 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:34:21 -0400 Message-ID: <426572CD.4020809@pathcom.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:06:21 -0400 From: Phil Piltch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride References: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC0A7E17C@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> In-Reply-To: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC0A7E17C@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:34:23 -0000 Dusel, Peter W wrote: >David, > The B&B I stayed at in 2001, a pleasant place to stay, was happy >to hold my suitcase during the ride. If you don't get another response, >check with the hotel where you are staying. > >Pete > It's certainly worth checking with the hotel/motel/B&B, but based on my past experience, finding a place to store one's bags hasn't been a problem. The motel I stayed at in Kamloops provided a room to store riders' stuff during the event. This was also the same case for PBP in 2003. In each case staff were there to assist securing the bags well before the start of the ride. It certainly helps if a number of riders are staying at there before and after the event. Phil -- Phillip Piltch 11 Hollydene Road Scarborough, ON M1L 2A4 From zakaplan@earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 14:57:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net (pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net [207.217.121.254]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46CB942A3 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-v8ldv2i.dsl.mindspring.com ([209.86.252.82]) by pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1DO0iX-0001sY-00 for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:57:13 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:57:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride From: Zach Kaplan To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <426572CD.4020809@pathcom.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:57:17 -0000 On a similar note, for those that are semi-local and not planning on staying at a motel is there a place one can park long term within a 20 minute ride from the start/finish? -------------------------------------------- Zach Kaplan Cycles Alameda, Northern California, North America 510-522-BENT (2368) zakaplan@earthlink.net From cycledad@juno.com Tue Apr 19 15:09:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from m09.lax.untd.com (m09.lax.untd.com [64.136.30.72]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED0C9942A3 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m09.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m09.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABBGMANHAL9FWR2 for (sender ); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:09:11 -0700 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: uko6F/Y8EtMJlPUea6IUxgUpvaDccwV9A33nQPtKWomQLSrYenVafw== Received: (from cycledad@juno.com) by m09.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id KQYW6EW4; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:08:42 PDT To: zakaplan@earthlink.net Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:07:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Storing stuff during the ride Message-ID: <20050419.150753.2228.2.cycledad@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6-7,12-18,20-31 From: cycledad@juno.com X-ContentStamp: 10:5:1552971485 cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:09:59 -0000 GRRiders- It's a bit of a ride, but there is a very underutilized multimodal parking lot at the northeast corner of where Mace Blvd. crosses over I-80. There is a bike path that goes from there directly to downtown. Distance to downtown is about three miles from this lot. I would be happy to lead riders from that lot to the start. Actually, I'm not sure whether we will start at the Boy Scout Cabin downtown or at Tandem Properties as we did in the inaugural event. Tandem Properties would be approximately two to three miles further, perhaps pushing the twenty minute ride limit (do to traffic, not rider speed alone). Regards, -Paul "Is It Time To Start Training?" Guttenberg On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:57:13 -0700 Zach Kaplan writes: > On a similar note, for those that are semi-local and not planning on > staying > at a motel is there a place one can park long term within a 20 > minute ride > from the start/finish? > > Paul Guttenberg LAB ECI #781 C-K Davis Bike Club Adventure Cycling From GoldRushInfo@davisbikeclub.org Tue Apr 19 15:18:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from pop22.ucdavis.edu (pop22.ucdavis.edu [169.237.105.12]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC4942A3 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Crocker.CNL.UCDavis.Edu ([169.237.146.6]) j3JMIJkN023959 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.1] by Crocker.Crocker.UCDavis.Edu (NTMail 4.30.0013/NT0504.00.2f9777c4) with ESMTP id fsgvcaaa for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:17:56 +0900 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050419150502.033fa1e0@Crocker.UCDavis.Edu> X-Sender: GoldRushInfo.DBC@crocker.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:17:54 -0700 To: Zach Kaplan , From: Joe GoldRush In-Reply-To: References: <426572CD.4020809@pathcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [GRRiders] Parking during the ride X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:18:20 -0000 Zach et.al. We, the organizers, are finding places for parking during the event. There are numerous places around town where you can park with varying degrees of risk, some zero and some not. The only certainty at this time is that there is NO parking at the Start/Finish. Start/Finish will more than likely be the same as the Start was in 2001, which is at the North end of town at the corner of Anderson and F Streets. We will publish a list of places to park and enclose the list in the rider packets. All places in Davis will be under 20 minutes ride. Hope this helps. -Joe At 02:57 PM 4/19/05 -0700, Zach Kaplan wrote: >On a similar note, for those that are semi-local and not planning on staying >at a motel is there a place one can park long term within a 20 minute ride >from the start/finish? > >-------------------------------------------- >Zach Kaplan Cycles >Alameda, Northern California, North America >510-522-BENT (2368) >zakaplan@earthlink.net > > >_______________________________________________ >GoldRushRiders mailing list >GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org >http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From tony.mellsop@supertel.se Sun Apr 24 14:11:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from mail.supertel.se (ns2.supertel.se [213.88.145.5]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F16694208 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hembyggd [10.0.1.26] by mail.supertel.se (SMTPD32-6.06) id AE3D47E100D0; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:23:09 +0200 Message-ID: <008501c5491a$b1daa1c0$96e6fea9@hembyggd> From: "Tony" To: "Davis GRRiders" Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:58:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C54921.26419DB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:11:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C54921.26419DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious = planing. Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn. Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis = before and after the GRR?? Would be nice to stay in the same = place as other cycling nuts. What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis = besides another flight? I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but??? At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in = the planing. Happy Cycling Tony Mellsop In Sweden ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C54921.26419DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all.
 
We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and = now into=20 some serious planing.
Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my = turn.
 
Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will = be=20 staying in Davis before and after the GRR??    =    =20 Would be nice to stay in the same place as other cycling = nuts.
 
What is the best way to get from San Francisco=20 International to Davis besides another flight?
I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car = to drive,=20 but???
 
At the controls during the GRR, what will = the costs=20 be, this to help in the planing.
 
Happy Cycling
 
Tony Mellsop
 
In Sweden
------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C54921.26419DB0-- From tony.mellsop@supertel.se Sun Apr 24 14:11:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from mail.supertel.se (ns2.supertel.se [213.88.145.5]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7999421A for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hembyggd [10.0.1.26] by mail.supertel.se (SMTPD32-6.06) id AE3F47E100D0; Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:23:11 +0200 Message-ID: <008601c5491a$b214c490$96e6fea9@hembyggd> From: "Tony" To: "Davis GRRiders" References: <5.2.1.1.2.20050413123253.01aa9db0@crocker.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Re: Water Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:11:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:11:06 -0000 Hi all Several of you have expressed your dislike for backpacks on rides. I'm not a fan myself, but I use one all the time. I even put in extra weight sometimes for training. At present I'm using a Camelbak Transalp and during our 400 Brevet I had 7.5Kg in it at the start, this including the water. For GRR I intend to use a camelbak that will take little or no extra gear.The extra gear will instead be placed in a seatpost rack bag and at bagdrops. Happy Cycling Tony Mellsop Sweden From rhawks@lmi.net Mon Apr 25 07:31:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from imap.lmi.net (nagios.lmi.net [66.117.140.245]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC2F9428A for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.lmi.net (imap.lmi.net [127.0.0.1]) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3PEVnqY032742; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:31:49 -0700 Received: (from webmail@localhost) by imap.lmi.net (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id j3PEVmKh032733; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:31:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: imap.lmi.net: webmail set sender to rhawks@lmi.net using -f Received: from apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net (apelon-su-209-81-57-97-cust.nextweb.net [209.81.57.97]) by webmail.lmi.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:31:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1114439508.426cff54bf3f5@webmail.lmi.net> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:31:48 -0700 From: rhawks@lmi.net To: Tony Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel References: <008501c5491a$b1daa1c0$96e6fea9@hembyggd> In-Reply-To: <008501c5491a$b1daa1c0$96e6fea9@hembyggd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 209.81.57.97 cc: Davis GRRiders X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:31:50 -0000 The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before the Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several other GRR rides staying there. One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark. Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the timing right. You might also catch the train in Oakland but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are bike curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage of Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same facility. rob Quoting Tony : > Hi all. > > We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious planing. > Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn. > > Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis before > and after the GRR?? Would be nice to stay in the same place as other > cycling nuts. > > What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides > another flight? > I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but??? > > At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in the > planing. > > Happy Cycling > > Tony Mellsop > > In Sweden > From Nicole.Honda@Sun.COM Mon Apr 25 10:09:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from brmea-mail-4.sun.com (brmea-mail-4.Sun.COM [192.18.98.36]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E319428A for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe2.sun.com ([192.18.108.79]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j3PH9vi7017987 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe2.sun.com by fe2.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) id <0IFI00K01IBWY400@fe2.sun.com> (original mail from Nicole.Honda@Sun.COM) for goldrushriders@dbclist.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Sun.COM ([129.146.11.202])(built Aug 25 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0IFI00AKJICKEG00@fe2.sun.com>; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:09:56 -0700 From: Nicole Honda Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel In-reply-to: <1114439508.426cff54bf3f5@webmail.lmi.net> To: rhawks@lmi.net Message-id: <426D2464.4000808@Sun.COM> Organization: Sun Microsystems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <008501c5491a$b1daa1c0$96e6fea9@hembyggd> <1114439508.426cff54bf3f5@webmail.lmi.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20041214 cc: Davis GRRiders X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nicole.Honda@Sun.COM List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:09:59 -0000 For all participants flying in: I live close to SFO, the airport where most of you will be arriving (which is not close to Davis). If you want to store a bike box near the airport, please contact me, I'd be happy to help out. btw, Amtrak provides very nice boxes for you to pack your bike in Nicole rhawks@lmi.net wrote: > The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before > the Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several > other GRR rides staying there. > > One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to > Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark. > Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the > timing right. You might also catch the train in Oakland > but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are bike > curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage of > Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same > facility. > > rob > > Quoting Tony : > > >>Hi all. >> >>We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious planing. >>Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn. >> >>Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis before >>and after the GRR?? Would be nice to stay in the same place as other >>cycling nuts. >> >>What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides >>another flight? >>I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but??? >> >>At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in the >>planing. >> >>Happy Cycling >> >>Tony Mellsop >> >>In Sweden >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From bill_bryant@prodigy.net Mon Apr 25 18:06:25 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.182]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18DE09428A for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (bill?bryant@prodigy.net@67.121.83.28 with login) by smtp803.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2005 01:06:24 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:06:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel From: Bill Bryant To: , Tony Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1114439508.426cff54bf3f5@webmail.lmi.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit cc: Davis GRRiders X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:06:25 -0000 The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs since the Davis brevets all start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin parking lot across the street). There is also a restaurant nearby [along with many others in easy walking distance in downtown Davis.] It is where I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR accommodations. There are several other motels nearby, all w/ similar prices. For lower prices, the Motel 6 is east of town about 4 miles. In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy Scout Cabin lot was the location of the pre-GRR tech inspection for bikes & lights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a couple days later, it was the finish line location. The actual GRR start was a 2.5 mile ride north on F street from the Hallmark Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin lot, so riders got a short warm-up before the departure. Daryn & Dan-- will the Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in 2001? Bill Bryant RUSA HQ > The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before > the Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several > other GRR rides staying there. > > One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to > Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark. > Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the > timing right. You might also catch the train in Oakland > but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are bike > curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage of > Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same > facility. > > rob > > Quoting Tony : > >> Hi all. >> >> We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious planing. >> Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn. >> >> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis before >> and after the GRR?? Would be nice to stay in the same place as other >> cycling nuts. >> >> What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides >> another flight? >> I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but??? >> >> At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in the >> planing. >> >> Happy Cycling >> >> Tony Mellsop >> >> In Sweden >> > > > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders From kothm@gsilumonics.com Tue Apr 26 01:45:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from lumomunmail.lumonics.de (unknown [62.245.171.37]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E709D93DB5 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 01:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lumomunmail.lumonics.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:46:40 +0200 Message-ID: <2F1F60495325C94A8BB8AC8D00D192B30498E6@lumomunmail.lumonics.de> From: "Koth, Michael" To: "'goldrushriders@dbclist.org'" Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:46:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [GRRiders] map California? X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:45:01 -0000 map California?

Hi,

I'm flying in to LA and plan to ride = to Davis.

Could someone recommend a good = map?

I saw a Rand McNally foldable State = Map California but I don't know the scale. Is that useable for = cyclists?

Regards

Michael Koth
Germany

From DDODGE@oehha.ca.gov Tue Apr 26 08:43:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from office-3a9d4c20.oehha.ca.gov (mail.oehha.ca.gov [205.225.207.133]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ACD93DB5 for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starfire.oehha.ca.gov (unverified [10.96.197.2]) by office-3a9d4c20.oehha.ca.gov for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:59:47 -0700 Received: from Xanadu-MTA by starfire.oehha.ca.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:17 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.4 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:43:01 -0700 From: "Daryn Dodge" To: , , Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=__PartB0939195.0__=" cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:43:20 -0000 --=__PartB0939195.0__= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both the = start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties bldg. This = is where the start was in 2001. The Boy Scout Cabin is being rented by a = local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use it as the = finish. The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark Inn, 2.5 miles = south on F Street. But there are several other motels very nearby that = may be less expensive. =20 =20 Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start and finish = at the same location this time. Tandem Properties bldg. is at the edge of = town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on your way = out. =20 =20 Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA GRR Registration >>> Bill Bryant 4/25/2005 6:06 PM >>> The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs since the Davis brevets all start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin parking lot across the street). There is also a restaurant nearby [along with many others in easy walking = distance in downtown Davis.] It is where I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR accommodations. There are several other motels nearby, all w/ similar prices. For lower prices, the Motel 6 is east of town about 4 miles. In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy Scout Cabin lot was the location of the pre-GRR tech inspection for bikes & lights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a couple days later, it was the finish line location. The actual GRR start was a 2.5 mile ride north on F street from the = Hallmark Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin lot, so riders got a short warm-up before the departure. Daryn & Dan-- will the Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in 2001? Bill Bryant RUSA HQ > The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before > the Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several > other GRR rides staying there. >=20 > One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to > Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark. > Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the > timing right. You might also catch the train in Oakland > but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are bike > curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage of > Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same > facility. >=20 > rob >=20 > Quoting Tony : >=20 >> Hi all. >>=20 >> We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious = planing. >> Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn. >>=20 >> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis = before >> and after the GRR?? Would be nice to stay in the same place as = other >> cycling nuts. >>=20 >> What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis = besides >> another flight? >> I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but??? >>=20 >> At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in = the >> planing. >>=20 >> Happy Cycling >>=20 >> Tony Mellsop >>=20 >> In Sweden >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders --=__PartB0939195.0__= Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both the = start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties bldg.  = This is where the start was in 2001.  The Boy Scout Cabin is being = rented by a local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use = it as the finish.  The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark = Inn, 2.5 miles south on F Street.  But there are several other motels = very nearby that may be less expensive. 
 
Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start and = finish at the same location this time.  Tandem Properties bldg. is at = the edge of town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on = your way out. 
 
Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA
GRR Registration


>>> Bill Bryant <bill_bryant@prodigy.net> = 4/25/2005 6:06 PM >>>
The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs= since the Davis brevets all
start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin = parking lot across the street).  There
is also a restaurant nearby = [along with many others in easy walking distance
in downtown Davis.] It = is where I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR
accommodations. There are = several other motels nearby, all w/ similar
prices. For lower prices, = the Motel 6 is east of town about 4 miles.

In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy = Scout Cabin lot was the location of the pre-GRR
tech inspection for = bikes & lights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a
couple days = later, it was the finish line location.

The actual GRR start was a = 2.5 mile ride north on F street from the Hallmark
Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin = lot, so riders got a short warm-up before the
departure.

Daryn = & Dan-- will the Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in = 2001?

Bill Bryant
RUSA HQ






> The = Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before
> the = Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several
> other = GRR rides staying there.
>
> One can take a BART from SFO to = Richmond, then an Amtrak to
> Davis and the train stop is across the = street from the Hallmark.
> Check the websites for both BART and = Amtrak to get the
> timing right. You might also catch the train in = Oakland
> but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are = bike
> curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage = of
> Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same
> = facility.
>
> rob
>
> Quoting Tony <tony.mells= op@supertel.se>:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> = We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious = planing.
>> Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my = turn.
>>
>> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody = will be staying in Davis before
>> and after the GRR??  =       Would be nice to stay in the same place as = other
>> cycling nuts.
>>
>> What is the best = way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides
>> = another flight?
>> I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car = to drive, but???
>>
>> At the controls during the GRR, = what will the costs be, this to help in the
>> planing.
>>= ;
>> Happy Cycling
>>
>> Tony Mellsop
>&= gt;
>> In Sweden
>>
>
>
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What is the address of the Tandem Properties Bldg?


-----Ori= ginal Message-----
From: Daryn Dodge
Sent: Apr= 26, 2005 8:43 AM
To: rhawks@lmi.net, bill_bryant@prodigy.net, tony.mel= lsop@supertel.se
Cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org
Subject: Re: [GRRid= ers] Motel/hotel

To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both the = start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties bldg.  T= his is where the start was in 2001.  The Boy Scout Cabin is being rent= ed by a local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use it as= the finish.  The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark Inn, 2= .5 miles south on F Street.  But there are several other motels very n= earby that may be less expensive. 
 
Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start and fin= ish at the same location this time.  Tandem Properties bldg. is at the= edge of town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on your= way out. 
 
Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA
GRR Registration


>>> Bill Bryant <bill_bryant@prodigy.net> 4/25/= 2005 6:06 PM >>>
The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs= since the Davis brevets all
start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin parking= lot across the street).  There
is also a restaurant nearby [along = with many others in easy walking distance
in downtown Davis.] It is wher= e I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR
accommodations. There are several= other motels nearby, all w/ similar
prices. For lower prices, the Motel= 6 is east of town about 4 miles.

In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy Scout Cab= in lot was the location of the pre-GRR
tech inspection for bikes & l= ights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a
couple days later, it was th= e finish line location.

The actual GRR start was a 2.5 mile ride nor= th on F street from the Hallmark
Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin lot, so riders go= t a short warm-up before the
departure.

Daryn & Dan-- will th= e Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in 2001?

Bill Bryant
= RUSA HQ






> The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown D= avis. I've stayed there before
> the Davis Double a few times. I'm gu= essing there will be several
> other GRR rides staying there.
>=
> One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to
&g= t; Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark.
>= Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the
> timing righ= t. You might also catch the train in Oakland
> but you'd need to walk= /ride several blocks and there are bike
> curfew hours at the nearest= BART station. The advantage of
> Richmond BART station for Amtrak is= that it's the same
> facility.
>
> rob
>
>= Quoting Tony <tony.mellsop@supertel.se>:
>
>> Hi all= .
>>
>> We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and no= w into some serious planing.
>> Enjoyed the information on the lis= t, now it's my turn.
>>
>> Is there a particular Motel/H= otel everybody will be staying in Davis before
>> and after the GR= R??        Would be nice to stay in the = same place as other
>> cycling nuts.
>>
>> What= is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides>> another flight?
>> I /we aren't overly interested in hi= ring a car to drive, but???
>>
>> At the controls during= the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in the
>> planing.<= BR>>>
>> Happy Cycling
>>
>> Tony Mellso= p
>>
>> In Sweden
>>
>
>
>= _______________________________________________
> GoldRushRiders mai= ling list
> GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
> http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinf= o/goldrushriders


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From Peter.Dusel@xerox.com Wed Apr 27 05:07:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Received: from wbmler2.mail.xerox.com (wbmler2.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.217]) by linux.dbclist.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5167E9426D for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.223]) j3RC71db018163; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:07:12 -0400 Received: from wbmlir3.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) j3RC6NlM004650; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:06:23 -0400 Received: from usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net [13.129.0.44])j3RC68vN004490; Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:06:11 -0400 Received: from usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net ([13.135.34.10]) by usa0300gw03.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:06:08 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C54B21.7E35FA12" Subject: RE: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:06:07 -0400 Message-ID: <309AD90BD8FC7E4383DB1ACCBF6C8DC0A7E1A6@usa0300ms01.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel Thread-Index: AcVKufqNDkqOAkNZRnWGvra/fO/EcgAZxofQ From: "Dusel, Peter W" To: , "Daryn Dodge" , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2005 12:06:08.0300 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EC87EC0:01C54B21] cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-BeenThere: goldrushriders@dbclist.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gold Rush 1200km riders list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:07:15 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C54B21.7E35FA12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's on Anderson Road, approx .2 Miles West of the intersection with F street. =20 Google shows the address as 3500 Anderson Road, Davis CA, 95616 =20 Pete -----Original Message----- From: goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org [mailto:goldrushriders-bounces@dbclist.org] On Behalf Of cghanson@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:40 PM To: Daryn Dodge; rhawks@lmi.net; bill_bryant@prodigy.net; tony.mellsop@supertel.se Cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel =09 =09 What is the address of the Tandem Properties Bldg? =09 =09 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Daryn Dodge=20 Sent: Apr 26, 2005 8:43 AM=20 To: rhawks@lmi.net, bill_bryant@prodigy.net, tony.mellsop@supertel.se=20 Cc: goldrushriders@dbclist.org=20 Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel=20 =09 =09 To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both the start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties bldg. This is where the start was in 2001. The Boy Scout Cabin is being rented by a local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use it as the finish. The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark Inn, 2.5 miles south on F Street. But there are several other motels very nearby that may be less expensive. =20 =20 Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start and finish at the same location this time. Tandem Properties bldg. is at the edge of town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on your way out. =20 =20 Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA GRR Registration >>> Bill Bryant 4/25/2005 6:06 PM >>> =09 The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs since the Davis brevets all start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin parking lot across the street). There is also a restaurant nearby [along with many others in easy walking distance in downtown Davis.] It is where I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR accommodations. There are several other motels nearby, all w/ similar prices. For lower prices, the Motel 6 is east of town about 4 miles. =09 In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy Scout Cabin lot was the location of the pre-GRR tech inspection for bikes & lights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a couple days later, it was the finish line location. =09 The actual GRR start was a 2.5 mile ride north on F street from the Hallmark Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin lot, so riders got a short warm-up before the departure. =09 Daryn & Dan-- will the Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in 2001? =09 Bill Bryant RUSA HQ =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 > The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before > the Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several > other GRR rides staying there. >=20 > One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to > Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark. > Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the > timing right. You might also catch the train in Oakland > but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are bike > curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage of > Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same > facility. >=20 > rob >=20 > Quoting Tony : >=20 >> Hi all. >>=20 >> We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious planing. >> Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn. >>=20 >> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis before >> and after the GRR?? Would be nice to stay in the same place as other >> cycling nuts. >>=20 >> What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides >> another flight? >> I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but??? >>=20 >> At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in the >> planing. >>=20 >> Happy Cycling >>=20 >> Tony Mellsop >>=20 >> In Sweden >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > GoldRushRiders mailing list > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders =09 =09 _______________________________________________ GoldRushRiders mailing list GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders =09 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C54B21.7E35FA12 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
It's=20 on Anderson Road, approx .2 Miles West of the intersection with F=20 street.
 
Google=20 shows the address as 3500 Anderson Road, Davis CA, = 95616
 
Pete
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Subject: Re: [GRRiders]=20 Motel/hotel

What is the address of the Tandem Properties=20 Bldg?


-----Original Message-----
From: Daryn Dodge=20
Sent: Apr 26, 2005 8:43 AM
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Cc:=20 goldrushriders@dbclist.org
Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Motel/hotel=20

To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both = the=20 start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties = bldg.  This=20 is where the start was in 2001.  The Boy Scout Cabin is being = rented by a=20 local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use it as = the=20 finish.  The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark Inn, = 2.5 miles=20 south on F Street.  But there are several other motels very = nearby that=20 may be less expensive. 
 
Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start = and finish=20 at the same location this time.  Tandem Properties bldg. is at = the edge=20 of town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on your = way=20 out. 
 
Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA
GRR Registration


>>> Bill Bryant <bill_bryant@prodigy.net>=20 4/25/2005 6:06 PM >>>
The Hallmark is popular with many = randonneurs=20 since the Davis brevets all
start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin = parking lot=20 across the street).  There
is also a restaurant nearby [along = with=20 many others in easy walking distance
in downtown Davis.] It is = where I'd=20 probably stay if needing pre-GRR
accommodations. There are several = other=20 motels nearby, all w/ similar
prices. For lower prices, the Motel 6 = is east=20 of town about 4 miles.

In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy Scout Cabin lot = was the=20 location of the pre-GRR
tech inspection for bikes & lights and = the=20 drop-bag pick-up place, and a
couple days later, it was the finish = line=20 location.

The actual GRR start was a 2.5 mile ride north on F = street=20 from the Hallmark
Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin lot, so riders got a short = warm-up=20 before the
departure.

Daryn & Dan-- will the Boy Scout = Cabin be=20 used in 2005 as it was in 2001?

Bill Bryant
RUSA=20 HQ






> The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown = Davis.=20 I've stayed there before
> the Davis Double a few times. I'm = guessing=20 there will be several
> other GRR rides staying there.
> =
>=20 One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to
> = Davis and=20 the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark.
> Check = the=20 websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the
> timing right. You = might=20 also catch the train in Oakland
> but you'd need to walk/ride = several=20 blocks and there are bike
> curfew hours at the nearest BART = station.=20 The advantage of
> Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's = the=20 same
> facility.
>
> rob
>
> Quoting = Tony=20 <tony.mellsop@supertel.se>:
>
>> Hi = all.
>>=20
>> We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into = some=20 serious planing.
>> Enjoyed the information on the list, now = it's my=20 turn.
>>
>> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel = everybody=20 will be staying in Davis before
>> and after the=20 GRR??        Would be nice to stay = in the=20 same place as other
>> cycling nuts.
>>
>> = What is=20 the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis=20 besides
>> another flight?
>> I /we aren't overly = interested=20 in hiring a car to drive, but???
>>
>> At the = controls=20 during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in = the
>>=20 planing.
>>
>> Happy Cycling
>> =
>> Tony=20 Mellsop
>>
>> In Sweden
>>
> =
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The address of the Tandem Properties Bldg. (start/finish) is:
3500 Anderson Rd., near where Anderson ends at F St./Rd. 101A.
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Daryn

>>>  4/26/2005 4:40 PM >>>

What is the address of the Tandem Properties Bldg?


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To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both the =
start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties bldg.  This =
is where the start was in 2001.  The Boy Scout Cabin is being rented by a =
local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use it as the =
finish.  The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark Inn, 2.5 miles =
south on F Street.  But there are several other motels very nearby that =
may be less expensive. =20
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Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start and finish =
at the same location this time.  Tandem Properties bldg. is at the edge of =
town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on your way =
out. =20
=20
Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA
GRR Registration


>>> Bill Bryant  4/25/2005 6:06 PM >>>

The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs since the Davis brevets all
start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin parking lot across the street).  There
is also a restaurant nearby [along with many others in easy walking =
distance
in downtown Davis.] It is where I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR
accommodations. There are several other motels nearby, all w/ similar
prices. For lower prices, the Motel 6 is east of town about 4 miles.

In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy Scout Cabin lot was the location of the pre-GRR
tech inspection for bikes & lights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a
couple days later, it was the finish line location.

The actual GRR start was a 2.5 mile ride north on F street from the =
Hallmark
Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin lot, so riders got a short warm-up before the
departure.

Daryn & Dan-- will the Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in 2001?

Bill Bryant
RUSA HQ






> The Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before
> the Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several
> other GRR rides staying there.
>=20
> One can take a BART from SFO to Richmond, then an Amtrak to
> Davis and the train stop is across the street from the Hallmark.
> Check the websites for both BART and Amtrak to get the
> timing right. You might also catch the train in Oakland
> but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are bike
> curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage of
> Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same
> facility.
>=20
> rob
>=20
> Quoting Tony :
>=20
>> Hi all.
>>=20
>> We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious =
planing.
>> Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my turn.
>>=20
>> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody will be staying in Davis =
before
>> and after the GRR??        Would be nice to stay in the same place as =
other
>> cycling nuts.
>>=20
>> What is the best way to get from San Francisco International to Davis =
besides
>> another flight?
>> I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car to drive, but???
>>=20
>> At the controls during the GRR, what will the costs be, this to help in =
the
>> planing.
>>=20
>> Happy Cycling
>>=20
>> Tony Mellsop
>>=20
>> In Sweden
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The address of the Tandem Properties Bldg. (start/finish) is:


3500 Anderson Rd., near where Anderson ends at F St./Rd. 101A.


 


Daryn

>>> <cghanson@earthlink.net> 4/26/2005 =
4:40 PM >>>




What is the address of the Tandem Properties Bldg?


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To answer Bill's question about the start/finish of the GRR, both the =
start and finish will very likely be at the Tandem Properties bldg.  =
This is where the start was in 2001.  The Boy Scout Cabin is being =
rented by a local organization other than the Boy Scouts, so we can't use =
it as the finish.  The nearest motel to S/F is probably the Hallmark =
Inn, 2.5 miles south on F Street.  But there are several other motels =
very nearby that may be less expensive.  


 


Also, we thought it would be more convenient to have the start and =
finish at the same location this time.  Tandem Properties bldg. is at =
the edge of town, so no stop lights and heavy downtown traffic to face on =
your way out.  


 


Daryn Dodge, Davis, CA


GRR Registration




>>> Bill Bryant <bill_bryant@prodigy.net> =
4/25/2005 6:06 PM >>>


The Hallmark is popular with many randonneurs=
 since the Davis brevets all
start there (in the Boy Scout Cabin =
parking lot across the street).  There
is also a restaurant nearby =
[along with many others in easy walking distance
in downtown Davis.] It =
is where I'd probably stay if needing pre-GRR
accommodations. There are =
several other motels nearby, all w/ similar
prices. For lower prices, =
the Motel 6 is east of town about 4 miles.

In 2001 the Hallmark/Boy =
Scout Cabin lot was the location of the pre-GRR
tech inspection for =
bikes & lights and the drop-bag pick-up place, and a
couple days =
later, it was the finish line location.

The actual GRR start was a =
2.5 mile ride north on F street from the Hallmark
Hotel/Boy Scout Cabin =
lot, so riders got a short warm-up before the
departure.

Daryn =
& Dan-- will the Boy Scout Cabin be used in 2005 as it was in =
2001?

Bill Bryant
RUSA HQ






> The =
Hallmark Hotel is in Downtown Davis. I've stayed there before
> the =
Davis Double a few times. I'm guessing there will be several
> other =
GRR rides staying there.
> 
> One can take a BART from SFO to =
Richmond, then an Amtrak to
> Davis and the train stop is across the =
street from the Hallmark.
> Check the websites for both BART and =
Amtrak to get the
> timing right. You might also catch the train in =
Oakland
> but you'd need to walk/ride several blocks and there are =
bike
> curfew hours at the nearest BART station. The advantage =
of
> Richmond BART station for Amtrak is that it's the same
> =
facility.
> 
> rob
> 
> Quoting Tony <tony.mells=
op@supertel.se>:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> =
We things are hotting up, the 400 is done and now into some serious =
planing.
>> Enjoyed the information on the list, now it's my =
turn.
>> 
>> Is there a particular Motel/Hotel everybody =
will be staying in Davis before
>> and after the GRR??  =
      Would be nice to stay in the same place as =
other
>> cycling nuts.
>> 
>> What is the best =
way to get from San Francisco International to Davis besides
>> =
another flight?
>> I /we aren't overly interested in hiring a car =
to drive, but???
>> 
>> At the controls during the GRR, =
what will the costs be, this to help in the
>> planing.
>>=
; 
>> Happy Cycling
>> 
>> Tony Mellsop
>&=
gt; 
>> In Sweden
>> 
> 
> 
> =
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Wow,
 
My head has been really spinning the last couple of days. I had hoped to ride a 300K this last Saturday but we couldn't make it.  So I checked to see if there was a good substitute as I've paid for the Gold Rush already.  Unfortunately, the options where pretty slim.  Because of this I contacted the ride organizer and we decided on a way to make the ride up.  So it was looking pretty good  and my hopes were still alive.   
 
Then today I found out my brother will not be able to finish qualifying for the Gold Rush as he is feeling the need to spend time with his wife have a new born.  So, this left me knowing I'd be without one of my favorite riding buddys.  And, for a while I really got into a funk.  I even went as far as considering dropping out of the GRR altogether. Then I looked at the GRR sign up list and this really helped get me to feel better.  I noticed that there seemed to be a lot of familiar names on the list and many have plans to ride GRR.  So, knowing that it's a bit more assuring as I know I won't be riding in the dark alone in the middle of July.  So, now I'm thinking I can still pull this together as long as no other road blocks are thrown in the way.  I just thought I'd share. 
 
 
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Wow,


 


My head has been really spinning the last couple of days. I had hoped to ride a 300K this last Saturday but we couldn't make it.  So I checked to see if there was a good substitute as I've paid for the Gold Rush already.  Unfortunately, the options where pretty slim.  Because of this I contacted the ride organizer and we decided on a way to make the ride up.  So it was looking pretty good  and my hopes were still alive.   


 


Then today I found out my brother will not be able to finish qualifying for the Gold Rush as he is feeling the need to spend time with his wife have a new born.  So, this left me knowing I'd be without one of my favorite riding buddys.  And, for a while I really got into a funk.  I even went as far as considering dropping out of the GRR altogether. Then I looked at the GRR sign up list and this really helped get me to feel better.  I noticed that there seemed to be a lot of familiar names on the list and many have plans to ride GRR.  So, knowing that it's a bit more assuring as I know I won't be riding in the dark alone in the middle of July.  So, now I'm thinking I can still pull this together as long as no other road blocks are thrown in the way.  I just thought I'd share. 


 


 


Tim   

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Is anyone from these lists planning on riding the Santa Rosa 600k at the end of June and driving from or near Sacramento?  I'm looking to possibly share driving/hotel fee's etc.  
 
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Is anyone from these lists planning on riding the Santa Rosa 600k at the end of June and driving from or near Sacramento?  I'm looking to possibly share driving/hotel fee's etc.  


 


Please email me if you're interested.


 


Tim 

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Hi-

To help you plan your 2005 Gold Rush Randonnee, we will offer a link to the 
2001 rider progress sheet.

http://davisbikeclub.org/goldrush/riderprogress/riderstats.htm

Enjoy!

-Joe

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Correction.  I ment end of May not the end of June.
 
Tim 

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Correction.  I ment end of May not the end of June.


 


Tim 

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Wow Tim, how could you have paid for the GRR already? They won't even 
accept registrations yet -- and how could you have done all the Brevets?

We've all gone through missed rides, etc. I was signed up for the 200K and 
300K in Davis but couldn't make either because of last minute family 
commitments. Luckily I had already done both Brevet distances in San 
Francisco earlier.

It should be fun to see people we know from other rides (PBP, Brevet 
series, etc) on GRR but with only 175 people and 1200K of riding there will 
be stretches of riding alone unless we/you can miraculously link up with 
something that goes exactly the same pace on flats, downhill and uphill.

Joel


At 02:26 PM 4/27/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>Wow,
>
>My head has been really spinning the last couple of days. I had hoped to 
>ride a 300K this last Saturday but we couldn't make it.  So I checked to 
>see if there was a good substitute as I've paid for the Gold Rush 
>already.  Unfortunately, the options where pretty slim.  Because of this I 
>contacted the ride organizer and we decided on a way to make the ride 
>up.  So it was looking pretty good  and my hopes were still alive.
>
>Then today I found out my brother will not be able to finish qualifying 
>for the Gold Rush as he is feeling the need to spend time with his wife 
>have a new born.  So, this left me knowing I'd be without one of my 
>favorite riding buddys.  And, for a while I really got into a funk.  I 
>even went as far as considering dropping out of the GRR altogether. Then I 
>looked at the GRR sign up list and this really helped get me to feel 
>better.  I noticed that there seemed to be a lot of familiar names on the 
>list and many have plans to ride GRR.  So, knowing that it's a bit more 
>assuring as I know I won't be riding in the dark alone in the middle of 
>July.  So, now I'm thinking I can still pull this together as long as no 
>other road blocks are thrown in the way.  I just thought I'd share.
>
>
>Tim
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I have received a number of entries that are incomplete, and are technicall=
y not qualified or entered into the GRR yet.  They are incomplete because =
their qualifying brevets are not finished.  The status of these entries =
are shown on the DBC website page of potential participants that designated=
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two individuals, as of today, have qualified for the GRR, with an entire =
brevet series finished.
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With around 200 people indicating a "yes' for riding the GRR, and knowing =
that considerably fewer of these individuals will actually sign up (based =
on past experience), we anticipate that everyone that wants to ride the =
GRR WILL get in.  I'm fairly confident we will not reach the cut-off of =
175 riders, and if we do, probably raise the limit slightly.  The reason =
we limited the event to 175 is because some of our controls, such as =
Tobin, may not have the ability to handle many riders at any one time. We =
want to make sure all participants have an enjoyable experience and not =
feel crowded at the controls. =20
=20
We may also run into problems with local enforcement in certain counties =
if we bump the event above 200 people, requiring a parade permit and =
'escorts' by police vehicles.  We are just trying to break even in running =
the Gold Rush, and having the police involved is very expensive, negating =
our ability to put on the ride.
=20
For those that have sent in incomplete entries, I'll need updates to know =
that they have completed their brevet series and put them into the =
'qualified' category.  I'll be sending individual messages to make sure I =
catch everyone. =20
=20
Again, I want to thank everyone for their interest in riding the Gold Rush =
Randonnee.  Our entire crew is looking forward to supporting all these =
fine riders in their quest to complete a 1200 kilometer brevet.
=20
Daryn Dodge
GRR register/qualifyer person
=20

>>> Joel Voelz  4/27/2005 4:05 PM >>>

Wow Tim, how could you have paid for the GRR already? They won't even=20
accept registrations yet -- and how could you have done all the Brevets?

We've all gone through missed rides, etc. I was signed up for the 200K =
and=20
300K in Davis but couldn't make either because of last minute family=20
commitments. Luckily I had already done both Brevet distances in San=20
Francisco earlier.

It should be fun to see people we know from other rides (PBP, Brevet=20
series, etc) on GRR but with only 175 people and 1200K of riding there =
will=20
be stretches of riding alone unless we/you can miraculously link up =
with=20
something that goes exactly the same pace on flats, downhill and uphill.

Joel


At 02:26 PM 4/27/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>Wow,
>
>My head has been really spinning the last couple of days. I had hoped =
to=20
>ride a 300K this last Saturday but we couldn't make it.  So I checked =
to=20
>see if there was a good substitute as I've paid for the Gold Rush=20
>already.  Unfortunately, the options where pretty slim.  Because of this =
I=20
>contacted the ride organizer and we decided on a way to make the ride=20
>up.  So it was looking pretty good  and my hopes were still alive.
>
>Then today I found out my brother will not be able to finish qualifying=20=

>for the Gold Rush as he is feeling the need to spend time with his =
wife=20
>have a new born.  So, this left me knowing I'd be without one of my=20
>favorite riding buddys.  And, for a while I really got into a funk.  I=20
>even went as far as considering dropping out of the GRR altogether. Then =
I=20
>looked at the GRR sign up list and this really helped get me to feel=20
>better.  I noticed that there seemed to be a lot of familiar names on =
the=20
>list and many have plans to ride GRR.  So, knowing that it's a bit =
more=20
>assuring as I know I won't be riding in the dark alone in the middle =
of=20
>July.  So, now I'm thinking I can still pull this together as long as =
no=20
>other road blocks are thrown in the way.  I just thought I'd share.
>
>
>Tim
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In response to Joel's response to Tim...


 


I have received a number of entries that are incomplete, and are =
technically not qualified or entered into the GRR yet.  They are =
incomplete because their qualifying brevets are not finished.  The =
status of these entries are shown on the DBC website page of potential =
;participants that designated yes, no, or maybe for rinding the GRR.  =
This list also shows that only two individuals, as of today, have =
qualified for the GRR, with an entire brevet series finished.


 


With around 200 people indicating a "yes' for riding the GRR, and =
knowing that considerably fewer of these individuals will actually sign up =
(based on past experience), we anticipate that everyone that wants to ride =
the GRR WILL get in.  I'm fairly confident we will not reach the =
cut-off of 175 riders, and if we do, probably raise the limit slightly.&nbs=
p; The reason we limited the event to 175 is because some of our controls, =
such as Tobin, may not have the ability to handle many riders at any one =
time. We want to make sure all participants have an enjoyable experience =
and not feel crowded at the controls.  


 


We may also run into problems with local enforcement in certain =
counties if we bump the event above 200 people, requiring a parade permit =
and 'escorts' by police vehicles.  We are just trying to break =
even in running the Gold Rush, and having the police involved is very =
expensive, negating our ability to put on the ride.


 


For those that have sent in incomplete entries, I'll need updates to =
know that they have completed their brevet series and put them into =
the 'qualified' category.  I'll be sending individual messages to =
make sure I catch everyone.  


 


Again, I want to thank everyone for their interest in riding the Gold =
Rush Randonnee.  Our entire crew is looking forward to supporting all =
these fine riders in their quest to complete a 1200 kilometer =
brevet.


 


Daryn Dodge


GRR register/qualifyer person


 



>>> Joel Voelz <jvoelz@pobox.com> 4/27/2005 4:05 =
PM >>>


Wow Tim, how could you have paid for the GRR =
already? They won't even 
accept registrations yet -- and how could you =
have done all the Brevets?

We've all gone through missed rides, =
etc. I was signed up for the 200K and 
300K in Davis but couldn't make =
either because of last minute family 
commitments. Luckily I had =
already done both Brevet distances in San 
Francisco earlier.

It =
should be fun to see people we know from other rides (PBP, Brevet =

series, etc) on GRR but with only 175 people and 1200K of riding there =
will 
be stretches of riding alone unless we/you can miraculously link =
up with 
something that goes exactly the same pace on flats, downhill =
and uphill.

Joel


At 02:26 PM 4/27/2005 -0700, you =
wrote:
>Wow,
>
>My head has been really spinning the =
last couple of days. I had hoped to 
>ride a 300K this last Saturday =
but we couldn't make it.  So I checked to 
>see if there was a =
good substitute as I've paid for the Gold Rush 
>already.  =
Unfortunately, the options where pretty slim.  Because of this I =

>contacted the ride organizer and we decided on a way to make the =
ride 
>up.  So it was looking pretty good  and my hopes =
were still alive.
>
>Then today I found out my brother will =
not be able to finish qualifying 
>for the Gold Rush as he is =
feeling the need to spend time with his wife 
>have a new born. =
 So, this left me knowing I'd be without one of my 
>favorite riding =
buddys.  And, for a while I really got into a funk.  I 
>ev=
en went as far as considering dropping out of the GRR altogether. Then I =

>looked at the GRR sign up list and this really helped get me to =
feel 
>better.  I noticed that there seemed to be a lot of =
familiar names on the 
>list and many have plans to ride GRR.  =
So, knowing that it's a bit more 
>assuring as I know I won't be =
riding in the dark alone in the middle of 
>July.  So, now I'm =
thinking I can still pull this together as long as no 
>other road =
blocks are thrown in the way.  I just thought I'd share.
>
&g=
t;
>Tim
>_______________________________________________
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>GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
>http://dbclist.=
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2003
Business Jedi and Cyclist
jvoelz@pobox.com
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Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?
If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the
clock start for the 200k back to Davis?

thanks
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Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back in =
2001 during planning of the first GRR.
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Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k option.  Tobin =
was actually 3 miles short of a 1000k, but since nearly every rider rode =
on to complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one =
was made to ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed before =
starting the 200k portion.  We had one rider only complete the 1000k, then =
waited for a relative to come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall what =
we did, but I think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full =
1000k.=20
=20
For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond 1000k =
in length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because we still =
have to go out and measure some of small route changes we've made.
=20
To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as soon =
as you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'rest' =
time between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k portion...as=
 long as you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when =
you reach Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding time to =
complete the 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't make any volunteers =
at Tobin wait hours beyond the closing time of the Tobin control waiting =
for you to start the 200k.
=20
Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more detail on =
this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any comment?
=20
Daryn

>>>  4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>


Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?
If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the
clock start for the 200k back to Davis?

thanks
rob hawks
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Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion =
back in 2001 during planning of the first GRR.


 


Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k option.&nbs=
p; Tobin was actually 3 miles short of a 1000k, but since nearly =
every rider rode on to complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 =
km) as well, no one was made to ride around in circles until a full =
1000k was completed before starting the 200k portion.  We had one =
rider only complete the 1000k, then waited for a relative to come pick him =
up at Tobin.  I don't recall what we did, but I think we made him =
ride an extra few miles to call it a full 1000k. 


 


For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond =
1000k in length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because =
we still have to go out and measure some of small route changes we've =
made.


 


To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as =
soon as you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have =
some 'rest' time between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k =
portion...as long as you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k =
time limit when you reach Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 =
hours of riding time to complete the 1000k+200k.&nb=
sp; All we ask is that you don't make any volunteers at Tobin wait hours =
beyond the closing time of the Tobin control waiting for you to start the =
200k.


 


Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more =
detail on this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois? =
 Any comment?


 


Daryn

>>> <rhawks@lmi.net> 4/28/2005 11:24 AM =
>>>



Is the Tobin control going to be the =
'finish' for the 1000k?
If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) =
when does the
clock start for the 200k back to Davis?

thanks
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You=B9ve got it covered well, Daryn. When the 1000k is done, the rider can
then start his/her 200k at that moment, or take a little rest at Tobin
first. Just be sure to work backwards from 88.5 total GRR hours, though, in
order to get the full 13.5 hours for the 200k. One wouldn=B9t want to leave
after that since this will be a sloooooow 200k.   ;-)

Bill Bryant
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>=20
> Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back in 2=
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> during planning of the first GRR.
> =20
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> complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one was mad=
e to
> ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed before starting t=
he
> 200k portion.  We had one rider only complete the 1000k, then waited for =
a
> relative to come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall what we did, but I
> think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full 1000k.
> =20
> For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond 1000=
k in
> length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because we still have=
 to
> go out and measure some of small route changes we've made.
> =20
> To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as soo=
n as
> you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'rest' ti=
me
> between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k portion...as lo=
ng as
> you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when you reac=
h
> Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding time to complete =
the
> 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't make any volunteers at Tobin wa=
it
> hours beyond the closing time of the Tobin control waiting for you to sta=
rt
> the 200k.
> =20
> Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more detail o=
n
> this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any comment?
> =20
> Daryn
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>>>> >>>  4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>
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> Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?
> If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the
> clock start for the 200k back to Davis?
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> thanks
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You&#=
8217;ve got it covered well, Daryn. When the 1000k is done, the rider can th=
en start his/her 200k at that moment, or take a little rest at Tobin first. =
Just be sure to work backwards from 88.5 total GRR hours, though, in order t=
o get the full 13.5 hours for the 200k. One wouldn’t want to leave aft=
er that since this will be a sloooooow 200k.   ;-)



Bill Bryant

RUSA HQ










Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back i=
n 2001 during planning of the first GRR.

 

Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k option.  To=
bin was actually 3 miles short of a 1000k, but since nearly every rider rode=
 on to complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one was=
 made to ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed before star=
ting the 200k portion.  We had one rider only complete the 1000k, then =
waited for a relative to come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall wha=
t we did, but I think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full =
1000k. 

 

For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond 1000k =
in length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because we still=
 have to go out and measure some of small route changes we've made.

 

To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as soon =
as you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'res=
t' time between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k portion...=
as long as you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when =
you reach Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding=
 time to complete the 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't=
 make any volunteers at Tobin wait hours beyond the closing time of the Tobi=
n control waiting for you to start the 200k.

 

Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more detail on =
this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any commen=
t?

 

Daryn



>>> <rhawks@lmi.net> 4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>



Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?

If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the

clock start for the 200k back to Davis?



thanks

rob hawks

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Hi All!
	Pete Dusel here, an ancien of assorted events, including the
2001 GRR that I rode tandem with Cyndy Van der Wiele. It was our third
ride together that year, a training plan I don't recommend!
	I'm also a pack rat, and still have all the e-mails from Joe
Goldrush from 2001, including his news releases from during the ride.


	I'll be starting to post the 2001 Gold Rush News E-mails
starting next Tuesday, May 3. I'll be sending them out roughly "Real
Time" so you can get an idea how fast/slow things happen during the
event.

	Don't forget that the riders check in times from 2001 are on the
web at:
http://davisbikeclub.org/goldrush/riderprogress/riderstats.htm

	Looking at the profile, the time splits above, and the climb
splits below, may help you with your planning, and understanding why,
for example, our average speed dropped from 17.67 between Davis and
Oroville, to 11.45 between Oroville and Tobin!
	Don't forget that because these are based on check in times,
they include the time spent stopped at the previous control. For info,
we spent about 30 minutes in Oroville.

	For info, here's the climb splits (in feet) I recorded from an
Avocet Vertech in 2001, some people may find this info helpful for
planning their event:

Davis		     0
Oroville	   140*
Tobin		 2,160*
Greenville	 6,000
Susanville	 8,460*
Adin		16,550
Alturas	18,560
Davis Creek	19,020
Alturas	19,160
Adin		19,880*
Susanville	23,910
Greenville	27,560
Tobin		27,980
Oroville	29,110
Davis		29,500

	The *ed items are where I forgot to record the split from the
Vertech, and the numbers are swagged from a Polar xTrainer + with
altimeter. Things can get VERY busy at a control!

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
You never know, the answer may be worth far more than it cost!
Pete
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Daryn and Bill,

Thanks much for your answers. I do have one more question
that I wasn't sure of the answer. By asking this, I don't want
to signal that I'm planning on doing this (because I'm not)
but with a 75 hour limit on the 1000k, If I finished in 70
hours, would I technically be able to rest for 5 hours
before I started the 200k? What I really want to hear is
that unless I finish the 1000k in 75 hours flat, I have some
time to rest, should I need it, before starting the last
200k. I appreciate what you mean concerning not making the Tobin
control staff cool their heels while I dawdle.

I'm brand new to all of this, so naturally my questions come
from lack of experience.

rob hawks
richmond, ca

Quoting Bill Bryant :

> You¹ve got it covered well, Daryn. When the 1000k is done, the rider can
> then start his/her 200k at that moment, or take a little rest at Tobin
> first. Just be sure to work backwards from 88.5 total GRR hours, though, in
> order to get the full 13.5 hours for the 200k. One wouldn¹t want to leave
> after that since this will be a sloooooow 200k.   ;-)
> 
> Bill Bryant
> RUSA HQ
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back in
> 2001
> > during planning of the first GRR.
> >  
> > Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k option.  Tobin
> was
> > actually 3 miles short of a 1000k, but since nearly every rider rode on to
> > complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one was made
> to
> > ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed before starting
> the
> > 200k portion.  We had one rider only complete the 1000k, then waited for a
> > relative to come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall what we did, but I
> > think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full 1000k.
> >  
> > For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond 1000k
> in
> > length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because we still have
> to
> > go out and measure some of small route changes we've made.
> >  
> > To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as soon
> as
> > you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'rest'
> time
> > between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k portion...as long
> as
> > you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when you reach
> > Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding time to complete
> the
> > 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't make any volunteers at Tobin
> wait
> > hours beyond the closing time of the Tobin control waiting for you to
> start
> > the 200k.
> >  
> > Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more detail on
> > this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any comment?
> >  
> > Daryn
> > 
> >>>> >>>  4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>
> > 
> > Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?
> > If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the
> > clock start for the 200k back to Davis?
> > 
> > thanks
> > rob hawks
> > _______________________________________________
> > GoldRushRiders mailing list
> > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
> > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders
> > 
> > 
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Rob,
=20
Yes, your scenario of a 70 hr 1000k finish would allow a 5 hr rest before =
continuing.  Since the object is to get credit for a 200k ride by =
completing it in 13.5 hrs, this would put you at the finish no later than =
88.5 hrs total.  And since you finished under 90 hrs from the start of the =
event, just like the GRR 1200k randonneurs, you get a GRR finishers =
jersey.  Actually, you may have 75.5 hrs before starting the 200k, since =
the Tobin control closes down at 21:34 (75.5 hrs after the start).  I =
realize this requires you to finish the entire event in 89 hrs, rather =
than 90 hrs, due to differences in km/hr speeds of the 1200k (last half =
speed) and 200k brevets.  This is done to try and keep the 1000k+200k =
option close to the same schedule as the 1200km brevet for closing times =
at later controls.
=20
Because the 1200k and 1000k+200k option has different average km/hr =
speeds, it can be quite confusing.  I'm sure there are situations that =
could arise at Tobin that we have not forseen.  However, we are quite =
fortunate to have the Santa Rosa RBA, Donn King, running the Tobin =
control.  He is quite familiar with the rules and will do all he can in =
assisting the 1000k+200k riders at his Control.
=20
Thanks for your questions.
=20
Daryn
GRR committee member

>>>  4/29/2005 11:02 AM >>>

Daryn and Bill,

Thanks much for your answers. I do have one more question
that I wasn't sure of the answer. By asking this, I don't want
to signal that I'm planning on doing this (because I'm not)
but with a 75 hour limit on the 1000k, If I finished in 70
hours, would I technically be able to rest for 5 hours
before I started the 200k? What I really want to hear is
that unless I finish the 1000k in 75 hours flat, I have some
time to rest, should I need it, before starting the last
200k. I appreciate what you mean concerning not making the Tobin
control staff cool their heels while I dawdle.

I'm brand new to all of this, so naturally my questions come
from lack of experience.

rob hawks
richmond, ca

Quoting Bill Bryant :

> You=B9ve got it covered well, Daryn. When the 1000k is done, the rider =
can
> then start his/her 200k at that moment, or take a little rest at Tobin
> first. Just be sure to work backwards from 88.5 total GRR hours, though, =
in
> order to get the full 13.5 hours for the 200k. One wouldn=B9t want to =
leave
> after that since this will be a sloooooow 200k.   ;-)
>=20
> Bill Bryant
> RUSA HQ
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Very good question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back =
in
> 2001
> > during planning of the first GRR.
> > =20
> > Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k option.  =
Tobin
> was
> > actually 3 miles short of a 1000k, but since nearly every rider rode =
on to
> > complete the 200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one was =
made
> to
> > ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed before =
starting
> the
> > 200k portion.  We had one rider only complete the 1000k, then waited =
for a
> > relative to come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall what we did, =
but I
> > think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full 1000k.
> > =20
> > For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may be closer, or just beyond =
1000k
> in
> > length.  We don't have the exact distances down yet because we still =
have
> to
> > go out and measure some of small route changes we've made.
> > =20
> > To answer the other part of your question, the 200k portion starts as =
soon
> as
> > you decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'rest'
> time
> > between finishing the 1000k portion and starting the 200k portion...as =
long
> as
> > you are not butting up against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when you =
reach
> > Tobin.  Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding time to =
complete
> the
> > 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't make any volunteers at Tobin
> wait
> > hours beyond the closing time of the Tobin control waiting for you to
> start
> > the 200k.
> > =20
> > Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen may be able to provide some more =
detail on
> > this topic, and make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any comment?
> > =20
> > Daryn
> >=20
> >>>> >>>  4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>
> >=20
> > Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the 1000k?
> > If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does the
> > clock start for the 200k back to Davis?
> >=20
> > thanks
> > rob hawks
> > _______________________________________________
> > GoldRushRiders mailing list
> > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
> > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders
> >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> > GoldRushRiders mailing list
> > GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
> > http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders
>=20
>=20
>=20


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Rob,


 


Yes, your scenario of a 70 hr 1000k finish would allow a 5 hr rest =
before continuing.  Since the object is to get credit for a 200k ride =
by completing it in 13.5 hrs, this would put you at the finish no later =
than 88.5 hrs total.  And since you finished under 90 hrs from =
the start of the event, just like the GRR 1200k randonneurs, you get a GRR =
finishers jersey.  Actually, you may have 75.5 hrs before starting =
the 200k, since the Tobin control closes down at 21:34 (75.5 hrs after the =
start).  I realize this requires you to finish the entire event in 89 =
hrs, rather than 90 hrs, due to differences in km/hr speeds of the 1200k =
(last half speed) and 200k brevets.  This is done to try and =
keep the 1000k+200k option close to the same schedule as the 1200km brevet =
for closing times at later controls.


 


Because the 1200k and 1000k+200k option has different average km/hr =
speeds, it can be quite confusing.  I'm sure there are situations=
 that could arise at Tobin that we have not forseen.  However, we=
 are quite fortunate to have the Santa Rosa RBA, Donn King, =
running the Tobin control.  He is quite familiar with the rules and =
will do all he can in assisting the 1000k+200k riders at his Control.
=


 


Thanks for your questions.


 


Daryn


GRR committee member



>>> <rhawks@lmi.net> 4/29/2005 11:02 AM >>>=
;


Daryn and Bill,

Thanks much for your =
answers. I do have one more question
that I wasn't sure of the answer. =
By asking this, I don't want
to signal that I'm planning on doing this =
(because I'm not)
but with a 75 hour limit on the 1000k, If I finished =
in 70
hours, would I technically be able to rest for 5 hours
before =
I started the 200k? What I really want to hear is
that unless I finish =
the 1000k in 75 hours flat, I have some
time to rest, should I need it, =
before starting the last
200k. I appreciate what you mean concerning =
not making the Tobin
control staff cool their heels while I dawdle.
<=
BR>I'm brand new to all of this, so naturally my questions come
from =
lack of experience.

rob hawks
richmond, ca

Quoting Bill =
Bryant <bill_bryant@prodigy.net>:

> You=B9ve got it =
covered well, Daryn. When the 1000k is done, the rider can
> then =
start his/her 200k at that moment, or take a little rest at Tobin
> =
first. Just be sure to work backwards from 88.5 total GRR hours, though, =
in
> order to get the full 13.5 hours for the 200k. One wouldn=B9t =
want to leave
> after that since this will be a sloooooow 200k. =
  ;-)
> 
> Bill Bryant
> RUSA HQ
> > =

> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Very good =
question, Rob.  This was the topic of much discussion back in
> =
2001
> > during planning of the first GRR.
> >  =

> > Tobin is the finish of the 1000k portion of the 1000k+200k =
option.  Tobin
> was
> > actually 3 miles short of a =
1000k, but since nearly every rider rode on to
> > complete the =
200k portion (actually about 205 km) as well, no one was made
> =
to
> > ride around in circles until a full 1000k was completed =
before starting
> the
> > 200k portion.  We had one =
rider only complete the 1000k, then waited for a
> > relative to =
come pick him up at Tobin.  I don't recall what we did, but I
> =
> think we made him ride an extra few miles to call it a full 1000k.
=
> >  
> > For the 2005 version of the GRR, Tobin may =
be closer, or just beyond 1000k
> in
> > length.  We =
don't have the exact distances down yet because we still have
> =
to
> > go out and measure some of small route changes we've =
made.
> >  
> > To answer the other part of your =
question, the 200k portion starts as soon
> as
> > you =
decide to leave the Tobin control.  Thus, you can have some 'rest'
=
> time
> > between finishing the 1000k portion and starting =
the 200k portion...as long
> as
> > you are not butting up =
against the 75 hour 1000k time limit when you reach
> > Tobin.&nbs=
p; Thus, you have essentially 88.5 hours of riding time to complete
>=
 the
> > 1000k+200k.  All we ask is that you don't make any =
volunteers at Tobin
> wait
> > hours beyond the closing =
time of the Tobin control waiting for you to
> start
> > =
the 200k.
> >  
> > Bill Bryant or Lois Springsteen =
may be able to provide some more detail on
> > this topic, and =
make sure I got it right.  Bill, Lois?  Any comment?
> =
>  
> > Daryn
> > 
> >>>> =
>>> <rhawks@lmi.net> 4/28/2005 11:24 AM >>>
>=
 > 
> > Is the Tobin control going to be the 'finish' for the =
1000k?
> > If one does the 1000k in 75 hours (or less) when does =
the
> > clock start for the 200k back to Davis?
> > =

> > thanks
> > rob hawks
> > __________________=
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I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared.
 
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I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared.


 


Tim 

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Tim,

Check the GRR Forum archives for the past two days.
Bill Bryant just sent out an announcement, I think
either late Saturday or early yesterday that he'd just
sent the info in the mail. Otherwise, you can contact
Bill directly, and I'm sure he'd provide that info.

BTW, your brother, Joe, came into the shop on
Saturday. I didn't know it was him (I'd only just
stopped by briefly myself) until after the fact.
You've got one really cute nephew.

Sterling

--- timothy bartoe  wrote:

> I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet
> for this coming weekends 400K in Davis?  I think
> it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to
> Oroville and I'm curious where the additional
> mileage will come from.  Also, anyone know what
> direction the wind typically blows through the
> valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm
> sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared.
>  
> Tim 
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	Don't forget that the riders check in times from 2001 are on the
web at:
http://davisbikeclub.org/goldrush/riderprogress/riderstats.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill_Bryant@prodigy.net [mailto:Bill_Bryant@prodigy.net]=20
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 6:34 PM
To: randon@topica.com; ultracycling@topica.com; dbc@topica.com
Subject: Gold Rush Randonnee Updates


Hello Long-distance Cycling Fans--
On Monday, July 9th, the Davis Bike Club's Gold Rush Randonnee will
begin at 6 PM in Davis, California. The scenic and challenging
1200-kilometer route will take determined randonneurs north to the
Oregon border region near Goose Lake. Along the way they will ride day
and night through flat farmlands, high mountains, and arid deserts to
the turnaround at Davis Creek. With 600 kms done, they then retrace the
route back to Davis. The 90-hour time limit runs out at noon Friday,
July 13th. We have over 150 dedicated volunteers working various shifts
at 17 control points along the way to provide the great support the
Davis Bike Club is famous for. It should be quite an adventure for
everyone involved!

If you're not able to make the 6 PM start to cheer for the departing
riders, you can still follow the action all week. Go to the Davis Bike
Club web site and you'll see a link for the Gold Rush Randonnee. Above
the GRR logo you'll also see the link for Rider Control Passage and Ride
Information Updates. These will be udated several times per day to let
friends and family track each rider's progress and see how they are
fairing. You'll also find a list of entrants on the GRR site; perhaps
you'll see someone you know doing the ride. This year's GRR will have 75
randonneurs and randonneuses from every section of the US, not to
mention the UK, Denmark, and British Columbia and Ontario, Canada. If
you are able to make the start, go to the Ride Info Update section for
specific start location details. Hope to see you there!

Davis Bike Club web site:
www.davisbikeclub.org

Or, follow the link from the web site of the Randonneurs USA at:
www.rusa.org

Cheers,
Bill Bryant

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Subject: Re: [GRRiders] Davis 400K Info
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> I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming weeken=
ds
> 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to
> Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from.  Al=
so,
> anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through the valley th=
is
> time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good =
to be
> prepared.
> =20
> Tim=20
>=20

Hi Tim--
This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have questions
after reading your rider packet.

Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is
bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don=B9t which way it will blow, but I=B9d bet =
a
LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversity of
such things, don=B9t be entirely surprised if a headwind from the north shift=
s
to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home late in th=
e
afternoon. I=B9ve seen it happen.
So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be made
up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders will
ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there will be
lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.

Bill



Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--
Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturday,
May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
info sheet, route sheet, and route map.

One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from
Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to bette=
r
show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on littl=
e
farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chico's
busiest streets.]

The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The
[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show you
the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W
alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until Woodlan=
d
and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.

So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to rid=
e
in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat you
well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   ;-)

One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go
west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ride.
This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F
Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit, please=
!

Bonne Route,
Bill Bryant
The Guy With the Clipboard



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Re: [GRRiders] Davis 400K Info



I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming we=
ekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from D=
avis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from=
.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through th=
e valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but=
 it may be good to be prepared.

 

Tim 






Hi Tim--

This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have questions=
 after reading your rider packet.



Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is bo=
und to be disappointed, Tim. I don’t which way it will blow, but IR=
17;d bet a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perv=
ersity of such things, don’t be entirely surprised if a headwind from =
the north shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward=
 home late in the afternoon. I’ve seen it happen. 

So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be made=
 up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders will e=
ase up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there will be lot=
s of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.



Bill







Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--

Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturday,=


May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
info sheet, route sheet, and route map.



One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from

Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to bette=
r

show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on littl=
e

farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chico's=


busiest streets.]



The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The

[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show you=


the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W

alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until Woodlan=
d

and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.



So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to rid=
e

in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat you=


well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   =
;;-)



One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go

west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ride.=


This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F

Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit, please=
!



Bonne Route,

Bill Bryant

The Guy With the Clipboard








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I think Bill's words re: the wind are most wise. Be happy with what
you get, and remember, it's fresh air.

On the other hand, if you're like me and like to torture yourself by
contemplating long-range forecasts, you can get a little glimpse of
the future, as mathematically muscular computers see it, by checking
out the weather computer models page at
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sto/models.php.

One of the models, the GFS, sees a damp Saturday in the Sacramento
Valley, with westerly winds up to 10 knots (about 12 mph) in the
morning, dropping in intensity during the day as they shift to
northwesterly, then northerly. Mind you, that's one of a half-dozen or
more  models the National Weather Service uses to come up with its
forecast/guesstimate.

Ah, fresh air.

On 5/2/05, Bill Bryant  wrote:
> =20
> I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming weeken=
ds
> 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to
> Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from.  Al=
so,
> anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through the valley th=
is
> time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good =
to
> be prepared.
>  =20
>  Tim=20
> =20
> =20
>  Hi Tim--
>  This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have questi=
ons
> after reading your rider packet.
> =20
>  Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is
> bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don't which way it will blow, but I'd be=
t a
> LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversity o=
f
> such things, don't be entirely surprised if a headwind from the north shi=
fts
> to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home late in =
the
> afternoon. I've seen it happen.=20
>  So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be m=
ade
> up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders will
> ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there will be
> lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.
> =20
>  Bill
> =20
> =20
> =20
>  Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--
>  Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturd=
ay,
>  May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
>  info sheet, route sheet, and route map.
> =20
>  One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from
>  Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to
> better
>  show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on
> little
>  farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chic=
o's
>  busiest streets.]
> =20
>  The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The
>  [GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show =
you
>  the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W
>  alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until
> Woodland
>  and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.
> =20
>  So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to
> ride
>  in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat =
you
>  well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   ;-)
> =20
>  One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go
>  west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ri=
de.
>  This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F
>  Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit,
> please!
> =20
>  Bonne Route,
>  Bill Bryant
>  The Guy With the Clipboard
> =20
> =20
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Amen. I hope there are either a significant number of "average" riders like 
myself that I can enjoy riding with for a good portion of the day (and 
night) and/or a good number of "nice riders" that aren't worried so much 
about a great  time as they are about having a good time and helping others 
- and themselves - get some relief from the wind!



At 06:16 PM 5/2/2005 -0700, Bill Bryant wrote:
>I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming 
>weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from 
>Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come 
>from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through 
>the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but 
>it may be good to be prepared.
>
>Tim
>
>
>Hi Tim--
>This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have 
>questions after reading your rider packet.
>
>Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is 
>bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don t which way it will blow, but I d bet 
>a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversity 
>of such things, don t be entirely surprised if a headwind from the north 
>shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home 
>late in the afternoon. I ve seen it happen.
>So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be 
>made up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders 
>will ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there 
>will be lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--
>Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturday,
>May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
>info sheet, route sheet, and route map.
>
>One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from
>Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to better
>show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on little
>farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chico's
>busiest streets.]
>
>The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The
>[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show you
>the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W
>alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until Woodland
>and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.
>
>So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to ride
>in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat you
>well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   ;-)
>
>One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go
>west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ride.
>This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F
>Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit, please!
>
>Bonne Route,
>Bill Bryant
>The Guy With the Clipboard
>
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>GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
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Amen. I hope there are either a significant number of "average"
riders like myself that I can enjoy riding with for a good portion of the
day (and night) and/or a good number of "nice
riders" that aren't worried so much about a great  time as they
are about having a good time and helping others - and themselves - get
some relief from the wind!





At 06:16 PM 5/2/2005 -0700, Bill Bryant
wrote:




I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming
weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike
from Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will
come from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically
blows through the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice
calm sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared.

 

Tim 






Hi Tim--

This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have
questions after reading your rider packet.


Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is
bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don t which way it will blow, but I d
bet a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the
perversity of such things, don t be entirely surprised if a headwind from
the north shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn
toward home late in the afternoon. I ve seen it happen. 

So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be
made up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders
will ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there
will be lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various
speeds.


Bill





Hello DBC Randonneurs and
Randonneuses--

Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this
Saturday,

May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the
usual

info sheet, route sheet, and route map.


One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route
from

Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to
better

show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on
little

farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off
Chico's

busiest streets.]


The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter.
The

[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show
you

the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road
99-W

alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until
Woodland

and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.


So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to
ride

in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat
you

well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in
packs!   ;-)


One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't
go

west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the
ride.

This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on
F

Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit,
please!


Bonne Route,

Bill Bryant

The Guy With the Clipboard


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I received the Davis 400k route sheet last night.  It looked to be a loop=20
rather than an out and back ride.   I will not be riding though since I=20
will be riding the SR 400k the following weekend instead.  Given a choice=20
between hills and flats I always pick hills.  I signed up for the Davis=20
400k incase I have to travel but my business trip to Japan was scheduled=20
after the SR 400k.  The weather forecast looks unsettled for this weekend. =

 Hope the ride goes well.
--Eric Nordman



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I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming=20
weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from=20
Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come=20
from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through=20
the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but=20
it may be good to be prepared.
=20
Tim=20


Hi Tim--
This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have=20
questions after reading your rider packet.

Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is=20
bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don?t which way it will blow, but I?d bet =

a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversity=20
of such things, don?t be entirely surprised if a headwind from the north=20
shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home=20
late in the afternoon. I?ve seen it happen.=20
So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be=20
made up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders=20
will ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there=20
will be lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.

Bill



Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--
Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this=20
Saturday,
May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
info sheet, route sheet, and route map.

One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from
Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to=20
better
show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on=20
little
farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off=20
Chico's
busiest streets.]

The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The
[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show=20
you
the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W
alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until=20
Woodland
and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.

So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to=20
ride
in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat=20
you
well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   ;-)

One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go
west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the=20
ride.
This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F
Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit,=20
please!

Bonne Route,
Bill Bryant
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I received the Davis 400k route sheet
last night.  It looked to be a loop rather than an out and back ride.
  I will not be riding though since I will be riding the SR 400k the
following weekend instead.  Given a choice between hills and flats
I always pick hills.  I signed up for the Davis 400k incase I have
to travel but my business trip to Japan was scheduled after the SR 400k.
 The weather forecast looks unsettled for this weekend.  Hope
the ride goes well.

--Eric Nordman










Bill Bryant <bill=
=5Fbryant@prodigy.net>


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Info

















I'm curious if anyone has received the
route sheet for this coming weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's
only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where
the additional mileage will come from.  Also, anyone know what directi=
on
the wind typically blows through the valley this time of year?  I'm
hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared.

 

Tim 





Hi Tim--

This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have questions
after reading your rider packet.



Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is
bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don’t which way it will blow, but I&=
#8217;d
bet a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversi=
ty
of such things, don’t be entirely surprised if a headwind from the no=
rth
shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home
late in the afternoon. I’ve seen it happen. 

So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be
made up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders
will ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there
will be lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.



Bill







Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--

Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturday,=


May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual

info sheet, route sheet, and route map.



One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from

Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to bette=
r

show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on littl=
e

farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chico's=


busiest streets.]



The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The

[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show
you

the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W

alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until Woodlan=
d

and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.



So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to
ride

in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat
you

well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!  
;-)



One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go

west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ride.=


This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F

Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit, please=
!



Bonne Route,

Bill Bryant

The Guy With the Clipboard

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Joel,
 
I don't know about the other riders but I'm more interested in finishing then finishing fast so maybe we'll see each other out there.  I ride a Carolina Blue Steve Rex.  With a big B17 saddle.  It's hard to miss. 
 
I don't know if your average pace is faster, slower or the same as mine.  If it's the same then I'd be more then willing to chat for 20 hours as we ride into the wind.  
 
See you Saturday,
 
Tim 

Joel Voelz  wrote:
Amen. I hope there are either a significant number of "average" riders like myself that I can enjoy riding with for a good portion of the day (and night) and/or a good number of "nice riders" that aren't worried so much about a great  time as they are about having a good time and helping others - and themselves - get some relief from the wind!



At 06:16 PM 5/2/2005 -0700, Bill Bryant wrote: 
   I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared. 
   
   Tim 


Hi Tim--
This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have questions after reading your rider packet.

Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don t which way it will blow, but I d bet a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversity of such things, don t be entirely surprised if a headwind from the north shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home late in the afternoon. I ve seen it happen. 
So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be made up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders will ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there will be lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.

Bill



Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--
Rider packets are in the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturday,
May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
info sheet, route sheet, and route map.

One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from
Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to better
show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on little
farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chico's
busiest streets.]

The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The
[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show you
the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W
alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until Woodland
and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.

So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to ride
in packs with folks of similar ability-- hopefully the winds will treat you
well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   ;-)

One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go
west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ride.
This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F
Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit, please!

Bonne Route,
Bill Bryant
The Guy With the Clipboard

_______________________________________________
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Joel,


 


I don't know about the other riders but I'm more interested in finishing then finishing fast so maybe we'll see each other out there.  I ride a Carolina Blue Steve Rex.  With a big B17 saddle.  It's hard to miss. 


 


I don't know if your average pace is faster, slower or the same as mine.  If it's the same then I'd be more then willing to chat for 20 hours as we ride into the wind.  


 


See you Saturday,


 


Tim 

Joel Voelz <jvoelz@pobox.com> wrote:


Amen. I hope there are either a significant number of "average" riders like myself that I can enjoy riding with for a good portion of the day (and night) and/or a good number of "nice riders" that aren't worried so much about a great  time as they are about having a good time and helping others - and themselves - get some relief from the wind!



At 06:16 PM 5/2/2005 -0700, Bill Bryant wrote: 





I'm curious if anyone has received the route sheet for this coming weekends 400K in Davis?  I think it's only about 100 miles by bike from Davis to Oroville and I'm curious where the additional mileage will come from.  Also, anyone know what direction the wind typically blows through the valley this time of year?  I'm hoping for nice calm sunny weather but it may be good to be prepared. 



Tim 


Hi Tim--
This went out last night on the DBC list. Holler back if you have questions after reading your rider packet.

Um, er... Anyone hoping for a calm winds in May in the Central Valley is bound to be disappointed, Tim. I don t which way it will blow, but I d bet a LOT of money it will blow in some direction... And given the perversity of such things, don t be entirely surprised if a headwind from the north shifts to a south wind about the time you make the big turn toward home late in the afternoon. I ve seen it happen. 
So, as stated, what this ride lacks in elevation change will likely be made up in fighting the wind. Smart riders will bunch up, and nice riders will ease up for stragglers to latch on. With 70+ riders, I hope there will be lots of little groups of 4+ riders going at various speeds.

Bill



Hello DBC Randonneurs and Randonneuses--
Rider packets are in
 the mail for the upcoming 400 km brevet this Saturday,
May 7th at 7 AM. [Sign-in starts at 6 AM.] The packet contains the usual
info sheet, route sheet, and route map.

One note about the map-- The section at the north end of the route from
Oroville to Chico to Hamilton City to Willows has been highlighted to better
show you the way in that region. [There are a few twists and turns on little
farm roads between Durham and Hamilton City, but this keeps you off Chico's
busiest streets.]

The other side of the map is not similarly marked with highlighter. The
[GRR] route from Davis to Oroville will have arrows on the road to show you
the way Saturday morning, and on the return, once you get on Road 99-W
alongside Interstate 5 from Willows south, there are no turns until Woodland
and Road 99, and then you're nearly home.

So far we have about 68 riders signed up, so it should be a good day to ride
in packs with folks of similar ability--
 hopefully the winds will treat you
well. And if they don't, it will be essential to ride in packs!   ;-)

One final note: I couldn't recall any other DBC Brevets that didn't go
west/left from the Boy Scout Parking lot onto 1st Street to start the ride.
This one will be different! On Saturday we will go north/straight on F
Street out of the parking lot, so no collisions from force of habit, please!

Bonne Route,
Bill Bryant
The Guy With the Clipboard

_______________________________________________
GoldRushRiders mailing list
GoldRushRiders@dbclist.org
http://dbclist.org/mailman/listinfo/goldrushriders


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As of this writing (4:30 pm Pacific Standard Time), we are a little over =
an hour from the start of the first West Coast 1200km brevet, the Gold =
Rush Randonn=E9e.  Seventy-four randonneurs are registered for the =
brevet.  However, the check-in sheet has not been reviewed to determine =
the number of no-shows.
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We are pleased to have two riders from overseas to join us for the ride: =
Chris Wilby from England and Stig Lundgaard from Denmark. =20
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The temps at the start will be a little on the hot side, 95 degrees with =
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crossed that our delta breezes will soon begin this evening to cool =
things off and give a little tailwind for the riders as they begin their =
journey to the first control in Oroville.
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For a viewing of the rider roster and daily update of rider progress =
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At 6 pm sharp, seventy-three cyclists left Davis on the first Gold Rush =
Randonn=E9e. 750 miles in 90 hours or less!  A much anticipated tailwind =
kicked up and the temperature dropped to a much more manageable 89 =
degrees as the riders followed support van of the world famous support =
person, Lee Mitchell.
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Update



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temperature=20
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support van=20
of the world famous support person, Lee Mitchell.


 


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three=20
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most=20
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miles=20
after making a wrong turn in the dark.  


 


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Canyon, 42 miles from Oroville, saw Michael Lau, Keith Fraser, and Ian =
Filcroft=20
arrive together in the early morning hours.  We are still=20
awaiting full results from the Tobin control.  However, =
results from=20
the Greenville control (at mile 181.4) and Susanville control (at mile =
248.7)=20
are are already coming in and Michael Lau and Keith Fraser are =
still=20
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Gold Rush Randonn=E9e =
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their 20th hour on the road.  Two riders, both Canadians, are checking =
in at the Adin Control, mile mark 316, indicating a possible sub-50 hour =
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=20
The Alturas control and Davis Creek turn-around are in place and =
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=20
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sheet which then gets published to the web site.
=20
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=20
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phones for keeping in touch. Too bad they don't work everywhere. By =
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problems will be history.

We are really having fun here at headquarters!  Such excitement!

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Sent: Tuesday, July =
10, 2001=20
5:48 PM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR -- =
Nearing end=20
of Day 1



Gold Rush=20
Randonn=E9e riders are experiencing =
Northern=20
California weather at its finest as they begin their 20th hour on the=20
road.  Two riders, both Canadians, are checking in at the Adin =
Control,=20
mile mark 316, indicating a possible sub-50 hour finish for Michael Lau =
and=20
Keith Frasier.  A little over 1 hour back are DBC's Reid Waldon and =
Wayne=20
Woodside.


 


Worry at GRR Headquarters over the =
whereabouts of=20
rider Brad Flickner from Texas earlier this morning were happily put to =
rest=20
when he checked in to the Susanville control at 2:10pm  His time =
from=20
Oroville to Susanville indicates he may have taken extra time to =
sightsee some=20
other roads in the area.=20

 


Word from the controls at the northern =
end of the=20
course where riders are yet to arrive indicate possible afternoon and =
evening=20
thunder showers with accompanying electrical displays.  Winds are =
light and=20
temps cool, conditions just perfect for cycling.


 


The Alturas control and Davis Creek turn-around are in place and =
anxiously=20
awaiting their first riders.


 


The communications system works with control workers faxing or =
perhaps=20
calling in times and the operators at headquarters update the Excel =
sheet=20
which then gets published to the web site.


 


We're out of touch with some in the hinterlands as cell phones =
don't work=20
there and some don't even have land lines, so the course monitors are =
picking up=20
info and heading to higher ground where they can call us with the =
control=20
data.


 


AT&T has sponsored the GRR by providing use with a =
battery of=20
cell phones for keeping in touch. Too bad they don't work =
everywhere. By=20
2005, the next GRR, it'll all be satellite communications so these =
problems=20
will be history.

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GRR Update #4
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We are now into the 29th hour of the Gold Rush Randonn=E9e.  The current =
leaders, Michael Lau and Keith Fraser,  just arrived at the Adin control =
(at mile 444.5, or 715 km) on their way back to Davis.  The next two =
riders, Wayne Woodside and Reid Walden, are about 2 hours back.  The =
cyclists that prefer a more relaxed Audax style of riding, and are at =
the tail-end of the GRR, have just left Susanville on their way out to =
Adin.  The Susanville control is now closed for outbound riders, but =
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around and eating, and 5 are in the showers.  There are reports of =
Hawiian music wafting through the control; apparently provided by the =
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side of the Sierra Crest...in the form of thunderstorms and hail!  While =
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quite intense if you're in the middle of one.  Unfortunately, some of =
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grade and decided to quit.  Most of the other riders got some form of =
precipitation between the Susanville control and the Adin control.  =
However, it has been reported that once the storms pass, the countryside =
is quite stunning in its beauty!
=20
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The Scott English/Susan Cooper and Peter Dusel/Cynthia Van der Wiele =
tandems had left the Adin control on their way to Alturas 1-2 hours ago. =
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Sent: Wednesday, July =
11,=20
2001 2:46 AM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR =
update -=20
Day 2 - Tuesday @ midnight, the 29th hour



GRR Update #4


 


We are now into the 29th hour of the =
Gold Rush=20
Randonn=E9e.  The current leaders, Michael Lau and Keith=20
Fraser,  just arrived at the Adin control (at mile =
444.5, or 715=20
km) on their way back to Davis.  The next two riders, Wayne =
Woodside and=20
Reid Walden, are about 2 hours back.  The cyclists that prefer =
a more=20
relaxed Audax style of riding, and are at the tail-end of the GRR, have =
just=20
left Susanville on their way out to Adin.  The Susanville control =
is now=20
closed for outbound riders, but should be expecting their first inbound =
riders=20
in roughly 4 hours.


 


The Adin control (at mile 316, or 509 =
km) in this=20
29th hour is a happening place!  About 30% of the riders are now at =
the=20
Adin control on their outbound journey, 13 are taking a sleep break, 8 =
are=20
walking around and eating, and 5 are in the showers.  There are =
reports of=20
Hawiian music wafting through the control; apparently provided by the =
control=20
workers to signify the Oasis-like quality of this stop.


 


Lots of exciting things have been =
happening this=20
afternoon on the east side of the Sierra Crest...in the form of =
thunderstorms=20
and hail!  While the thunderstorm activity is fairly local and =
short-lived,=20
it can be quite intense if you're in the middle of one.  =
Unfortunately,=20
some of the later riders got caught in a thunderstorm at the top of =
Janesville=20
grade and decided to quit.  Most of the other riders got some form =
of=20
precipitation between the Susanville control and the Adin control.  =

However, it has been reported that once the storms pass, the countryside =
is=20
quite stunning in its beauty!


 


The three mixed tandems that started =
the GRR are=20
still riding strong.  The Scott English/Susan Cooper and Peter=20
Dusel/Cynthia Van der Wiele tandems had left the Adin control on =
their way=20
to Alturas 1-2 hours ago.  The Dan Crain/Anny Beck tandem are =
sleeping at=20
Adin.


 


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GRR Update #5
Wednesday Morning, at the 38th hour of the Gold Rush Randonn=E9e
=20
The sun has risen over the mountains at the Adin control to reveal a =
beautiful morning of clear skies and no wind.  The afternoon =
thunderstorms that plagued the northern half of the course yesterday are =
not going to return today, so says the weather service.  A few =
randonneurs were not prepared for the cool tempertures that reached the =
low to mid 40s last night and this morning. But control officials used =
their ingenuity and outfitted several riders with plastic garbage bags =
for the morning ride to the Alturas control, some 43 miles away.
=20
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nearly all DNF's occur prior to the turn-around.  Which means there =
should only be a few more DNF's, if any (hopefully none!).  The reasons =
run the gamut of possibilities for DNF'ing, but thankfully, no one has =
quit due to a crash or injury incurred out on the course. =20
=20
The turn-around at Davis Creek reported at 8 a.m. this morning that a =
total of 32 riders have reached the control and are now being guided by =
bright red arrows painted on the pavement that signify the return trip =
to Davis.  Gold arrows painted on the pavement guided riders on the =
outbound leg of the GRR. =20
=20
This just in!!!  Riders report that dogs are running wild on the road 12 =
miles from the turn-around and are driving the cyclists wacky!  The dogs =
belong to the adjoining Indian reservation and police were called to try =
and quell this mob of unruly canines.  However, the police report that =
they can do nothing because they have no authority on an Indian =
reservation (GRRRRRR!).=20
=20
Our latest check-in from the Susanville control (at mile 512.3, or 824.5 =
km) reports that Keith Fraser and Michael Lau left together at 6:55 a.m. =
this morning.  They apparently had a brief rest at the Adin control =
before heading towards Susanville last night. =20
=20
We are proud to note that DBC's own Peter Galloni, age 67, is is doing =
great and is in the top 10.  Peter missed PBP in 1999 due to multiple =
brokens bones, including a broken neck, incurred in a fall during a =
1000k brevet in June 1999.  He is riding the GRR with a neck brace, but =
Peter reports that the neck brace looks worse than it really is. =20
=20
On a sentimental note, Lynn Hunter, one of the control workers at the =
Tobin control, proposed to her boyfriend while he was riding the GRR =
during the first night.  Lynn set up lights and a big sign at the top of =
Jarbo Gap that said "Marty, will you marry me!".  The answer was an =
enthusiastic yes!  We at the communications center were worried this =
would have a detrimental affect on Marty's enthusiasm for riding the =
remainder of the GRR, but we are happy to report Marty is still on the =
course and riding well.
=20
Our two European entrants, Chris Wilby and Stig Lungaard, are still =
pounding out the kilometers near the far end of the course.  Stig is =
still riding with the Scott and Susan tandem somewhere near Adin on the =
return leg, and Chris is near the Davis Creek turn-around, probably =
trying to fend off the reservation dogs.
=20
As a reminder, continual updates of the rider progress can be viewed on =
the Davis Bike Club website at: davisbikeclub.org
=20
Next report in 6 hours.
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Sent: Wednesday, July =
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2001 12:00 PM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR =
Update #5=20
- Wednesdat morning, 38th hour



GRR Update #5


Wednesday Morning, at the 38th =
hour of the=20
Gold Rush Randonn=E9e


 


The sun has risen over the mountains at =
the Adin=20
control to reveal a beautiful morning of clear skies and no =
wind.  The=20
afternoon thunderstorms that plagued the northern half of the course=20
yesterday are not going to return today, so says the =
weather=20
service.  A few randonneurs were not prepared for the cool =
tempertures that=20
reached the low to mid 40s last night and this morning. But control =
officials=20
used their ingenuity and outfitted several riders with plastic garbage =
bags for=20
the morning ride to the Alturas control, some 43 miles =
away.


 


As of this morning, 14 cyclists have =
DNF'ed. =20
Past experience shows that nearly all DNF's occur prior to the=20
turn-around.  Which means there should only be a few more DNF's, if =
any=20
(hopefully none!).  The reasons run the gamut of possibilities for =
DNF'ing,=20
but thankfully, no one has quit due to a crash or injury incurred out on =
the=20
course.  


 




The turn-around at Davis Creek reported =
at 8 a.m.=20
this morning that a total of 32 riders have reached the control and =
are=20
now being guided by bright red arrows painted on the pavement =
that=20
signify the return trip to Davis.  Gold arrows painted on the =
pavement=20
guided riders on the outbound leg of the GRR.  


 


This just in!!!  Riders report that dogs are running wild on =
the road=20
12 miles from the turn-around and are driving the cyclists =
wacky!  The=20
dogs belong to the adjoining Indian reservation and police were called =
to try=20
and quell this mob of unruly canines.  However, the police report =
that they=20
can do nothing because they have no authority on an Indian reservation=20
(GRRRRRR!). 


 


Our latest check-in from the Susanville =
control=20
(at mile 512.3, or 824.5 km) reports that Keith Fraser and =
Michael Lau=20
left together at 6:55 a.m. this morning.  They apparently had a =
brief rest=20
at the Adin control before heading towards Susanville last night. =20



 


We are proud to note that DBC's own =
Peter Galloni,=20
age 67, is is doing great and is in the top 10.  Peter missed PBP =
in 1999=20
due to multiple brokens bones, including a broken neck, incurred in a =
fall=20
during a 1000k brevet in June 1999.  He is riding the GRR with =
a neck=20
brace, but Peter reports that the neck brace looks worse than it really=20
is.  


 


On a sentimental note, Lynn Hunter, one =
of the=20
control workers at the Tobin control, proposed to her boyfriend while he =

was riding the GRR during the first night.  Lynn set up lights =
and a=20
big sign at the top of Jarbo Gap that said "Marty, will you marry =
me!". =20
The answer was an enthusiastic yes!  We at the communications =
center were=20
worried this would have a detrimental affect on Marty's enthusiasm for =
riding=20
the remainder of the GRR, but we are happy to report Marty is still on =
the=20
course and riding well.


 


Our two European entrants, Chris Wilby =
and Stig=20
Lungaard, are still pounding out the kilometers near the far end of the=20
course.  Stig is still riding with the Scott and Susan tandem =
somewhere=20
near Adin on the return leg, and Chris is near the Davis Creek =
turn-around,=20
probably trying to fend off the reservation dogs.


 


As a reminder, continual updates of the =
rider=20
progress can be viewed on the Davis Bike Club website at:=20
davisbikeclub.org


 


Next report in 6 hours.


 


 
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Subject: GRR update #6, Wednesday afternoon


GRR Update #6
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Wednesday Afternoon in the 46th hour of the GRR
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The Tobin control is open and ready for action!  The two frontrunners,
Michael Lau and Keith Fraser, arrived at the Tobin control (mile 618.6,
or 995.5 km) at 3:42 p.m. tired, hungry, and a little hot.  The
afternoon winds have kicked up in the canyon and the two Canadians had
to fight a warm headwind going downhill (ugh!).  However, with only
200km left to go, they were ready to press on to Davis after a 45 minute
stop.  Ken Bonner is currently in third place roughly 3 hours back.
Jerry Khorll is the fourth randonneur back, about 2 hours behind Ken. =20
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The thunderstorms are back!  The randonneurs endured some hit-and-miss
rain and hail yesterday.  And today is no different.  While the Adin
control only got a brief downpour today, the Susanville control 70 miles
to the south was getting hammered with numerous downpours.  Locals in
the area said they have not seen rain like this in months!  With the
bulk of the riders currently at the Adin control or beyond towards
Susanville, some are getting wet.  However, the temperatures have been
quite mild for the riders this afternoon.
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Stig Lundgaard from Denmark is still sticking with the Scott
English/Susan Cooper tandem.  Word has it they are at Susanville taking
a short sleep break.  As of this writing, approximately 11 randonneurs
have arrived or passed through the Susanville control (at mile 512, or
824 km).  Back at the Alturas control, it has been reported that all
riders have passed through and they are closing down.  Between the
Alturas and Adin controls, there are only 4 riders (Mitch Ashley, Ken
Dobb, Martin Heath, John Robbins) left bringing up the rear.  However,
the Adin control does not close until 10:34 tonight so they are all in
good shape.
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Word has it that 14 randonneurs are currently at Adin and enjoying a
wonderful meal provided by Mike Tigges, Susan Jacobson, and the local
Adin ambulance crew.  The skies in Adin are clear with no more rain
expected today.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe GoldRush=20
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Sent: Wednesday, July =
11,=20
2001 8:20 PM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR =
update #6,=20
Wednesday afternoon



GRR Update #6


 


Wednesday Afternoon in the 46th hour of =
the=20
GRR


 


The Tobin control is open and =
ready for=20
action!  The two frontrunners, Michael Lau and Keith =
Fraser,=20
arrived at the Tobin control (mile 618.6, or 995.5 km) at 3:42 p.m. =
tired,=20
hungry, and a little hot.  The afternoon winds have kicked up in =
the canyon=20
and the two Canadians had to fight a warm headwind going downhill =
(ugh!). =20
However, with only 200km left to go, they were ready to press on to =
Davis=20
after a 45 minute stop.  Ken Bonner is currently in third place =
roughly 3=20
hours back.  Jerry Khorll is the fourth randonneur back, about 2 =
hours=20
behind Ken.  


 


The thunderstorms are =
back! =20
The randonneurs endured some hit-and-miss rain and hail yesterday.  =
And=20
today is no different.  While the Adin control only got a brief =
downpour=20
today, the Susanville control 70 miles to the south was getting hammered =
with=20
numerous downpours.  Locals in the area said they have not seen =
rain like=20
this in months!  With the bulk of the riders currently at the Adin =
control=20
or beyond towards Susanville, some are getting wet.  However, the=20
temperatures have been quite mild for the riders this =
afternoon.


 


Stig Lundgaard from Denmark is still =
sticking with=20
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Susanville=20
taking a short sleep break.  As of this writing, approximately 11=20
randonneurs have arrived or passed through the Susanville control (at =
mile 512,=20
or 824 km).  Back at the Alturas control, it has been reported that =
all=20
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Alturas=20
and Adin controls, there are only 4 riders (Mitch Ashley, Ken Dobb, =
Martin=20
Heath, John Robbins) left bringing up the rear.  However, the Adin =
control=20
does not close until 10:34 tonight so they are all in good =
shape.


 


Word has it that 14 randonneurs are =
currently at=20
Adin and enjoying a wonderful meal provided by Mike Tigges, Susan =
Jacobson, and=20
the local Adin ambulance crew.  The skies in Adin are clear with no =
more=20
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statistics


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If you live in the Davis area, you can catch the first finishers of the
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Subject: GRR Update #7, Wednesday evening, the 52nd hour of the GRR


GRR Update #7 - Wednesday evening, the 52nd hour of the Gold Rush
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The sun has set, the night has descended on the course, and the riders =
are beginning their third night of the GRR.  The lead riders left =
Oroville control at 8:31 p.m. and are expected back in Davis sometime in =
the wee hours of the morning.  Estimated time of arrival is about 2:30 =
a.m. Thursday morning.  Dan Shadoan has put out the word to get club =
members out to cheer Michael and Keith at the finish.  However, a stiff =
delta breeze has picked up this evening creating a headwind and dropping =
the temperature into the 60's.  These conditions will likely slow the =
riders.  The low temps are somewhat unusual for this time of year we all =
hope at GRR Central that our two lead riders are prepared for the =
drastic drop in temperature.
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Ken Bonner, currently running third, is nearing the Oroville control =
which is only 91 miles from Davis.  Reid Walden has moved into 4th and =
is nearing the Oroville control as well. Jerry Khorll, is about an hour =
behind Reid and has recently left the Tobin control.  Back farther up =
the canyon, about 10 more cyclists have reached the Greenville control =
and are either sleeping or continuing on.  Another 10 are have passed =
over the Sierran Crest via the arduous Janesville grade or are tackling =
it at this time.  The two frontrunners, Michael Lau and Keith Fraser, =
said they had to zig-zag up the steepest sections.  The remaining riders =
are at Susanville or nearing it.  The Adin at the far end of the course =
control reported that everyone had left by about 9 p.m. this evening so =
they closed down early!  Adin was not scheduled to close until 10:34 =
p.m.
=20
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some sleep.  Tonight, it appears to be Susanville's turn.  It is =
estimated that about 30 riders will sleep in Susanville tonight and =
tackle Janesville Grade first thing in the morning.
=20
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provided specific updates on the randonneuse's in the event.  We have =
three women on singles still going strong - Karen Bonnett, Karen =
Aydelott, and Lois Springsteen.  Karen Bonnett has decided to continue =
on from Susanville and should be within two hours of Greenville.  Karen =
Aydelott is sleeping in Susanville and Lois is still on her way to =
Susanville. =20
=20
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course.  We now believe there are actually four.  The fourth tandem =
would be Michel Richard and Karen Smith.  Is there anybody out there =
that can straighten us out on this?  The lead tandem, Scott English and =
Susan Cooper, are somewhere near the summit of Janesville Grade. =20
=20
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on the road.  A 100% completion rate for foreigners is a strong =
possibility!  Also, we are now expecting a 100% completion rate for all =
four tandem entrants as well.=20
=20
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in and said that some of the riders had to ride through a foot of =
standing water in a section of town.  The earlier thunderstorms that =
passed over Susanville were fairly intense, but fortunately, most riders =
missed the worst of the storm.
=20
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Sent: Thursday, July =
12, 2001=20
2:27 AM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR Update =
#7,=20
Wednesday evening, the 52nd hour of the GRR



GRR Update #7 - Wednesday evening, =
the 52nd=20
hour of the Gold Rush


 


The sun has set, the night has =
descended on the=20
course, and the riders are beginning their third night of the =
GRR. =20
The lead riders left Oroville control at 8:31 p.m. and are expected back =
in=20
Davis sometime in the wee hours of the morning.  Estimated time of =
arrival=20
is about 2:30 a.m. Thursday morning.  Dan Shadoan has put out the =
word to=20
get club members out to cheer Michael and Keith at the finish.  =
However, a=20
stiff delta breeze has picked up this evening creating a headwind and =
dropping=20
the temperature into the 60's.  These conditions will likely slow =
the=20
riders.  The low temps are somewhat unusual for this time of year =
we all=20
hope at GRR Central that our two lead riders are prepared for the =
drastic drop=20
in temperature.


 


Ken Bonner, currently running =
third, is=20
nearing the Oroville control which is only 91 miles from Davis.  =
Reid=20
Walden has moved into 4th and is nearing the Oroville control as well. =
Jerry=20
Khorll, is about an hour behind Reid and has recently left the Tobin=20
control.  Back farther up the canyon, about 10 more cyclists =
have=20
reached the Greenville control and are either sleeping or continuing =
on. =20
Another 10 are have passed over the Sierran Crest via the arduous =
Janesville=20
grade or are tackling it at this time.  The two frontrunners, =
Michael Lau=20
and Keith Fraser, said they had to zig-zag up the steepest =
sections.  The=20
remaining riders are at Susanville or nearing it.  The Adin at the =
far end=20
of the course control reported that everyone had left by about 9 p.m. =
this=20
evening so they closed down early!  Adin was not scheduled to close =
until=20
10:34 p.m.


 




Last night, Adin seemed to be the =
popular control=20
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Susanville's=20
turn.  It is estimated =
that about 30=20
riders will sleep in Susanville tonight and tackle Janesville Grade =
first thing=20
in the morning.


 


Well, what about the lead women?  =
I have been=20
reminded that I have not provided specific updates on the=20
randonneuse's in the event.  We have three women on singles still =
going=20
strong - Karen Bonnett, Karen Aydelott, and Lois Springsteen.  =
Karen=20
Bonnett has decided to continue on from Susanville and should be within =
two=20
hours of Greenville.  Karen Aydelott is sleeping in Susanville and =
Lois is=20
still on her way to Susanville.  


 


Earlier, I reported that there were =
only three=20
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four. =20
The fourth tandem would be Michel Richard and Karen =
Smith.  Is=20
there anybody out there that can straighten us out on this?  =
The lead=20
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summit of=20
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I am happy to note that in terms of the =
foreign=20
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rate for=20
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expecting a 100%=20
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well. 


 


Floods in =
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riders=20
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The=20
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but=20
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Subject: GRR Update #8 - Thursday morning, the 60th hour of the GRR


GRR Update #8 - Thursday morning, the 60th hour of the GRR.
=20
We have a winner and first course record holder! Keith Fraser
 , 42, of Vancouver, British
Columbia finished solo this morning at 4:55, for total elapsed time of
58:55. Keith's riding partner for almost the entire event was fellow
Canadian Michael Lau, 39, of Ottawa Ontario. About 15 blocks from the
finish, Michael pulled off the course, announcing he was going to skip
the check in and head straight to his hotel. We expect Michael to check
in officially later in the day, when he catches up on his sleep.
=20
Keith reported high temperatures and strong headwinds as the duo
descended the Feather River Canyon Wednesday afternoon. But temperatures
dropped quite a bit as the evening progressed, and Mary Woodside gave
the riders plastic bags to keep their hands warm when they came through
the Secret Control at 1:07 this morning. Mary also reported that Reid
Walden came through early this morning looking strong, and he's expected
in at the finish any time now.
=20
The three members of the Official Greeting Crew experienced a little
anxiety as they plotted the perfect place to park by the side of the
road and cheer on the first two riders. After waking up finish line
captain Rich Boettner at 3 a.m., insisting the leaders could be there
"any second now," they drove backwards along the course 17 miles up to
Knight's Landing. They were perplexed at not finding the riders anywhere
along the course, and they feared they had overlooked them at one of the
mini-marts in Woodland. But the leaders eventually appeared as the crew
waited by the bridge over the Sacramento River. It turns out Keith and
Michael had gotten lost after the Secret Control, and spent some time
riding in circles before getting back on course.=20
=20
Reports from other parts of the course have been a bit scarce through
the night hours, but early this morning we learned that Paul Guttenberg
was temporarily misplaced. Course monitor Ellie Olsen went looking for
him off course near Antelope Lake, but by the time she found him, he had
already found himself. Control captain Craig Robertson reports that Ken
Bonner left Oroville at 12:08 this morning, while Jerry Khorll left a
bit later at 1:53.
=20
That's all the news for now. Look for more news from the GRR as soon as
more riders finish and the control workers have their coffee and phone
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Sent: Thursday, July =
12, 2001=20
10:13 AM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR Update =
#8 -=20
Thursday morning, the 60th hour of the GRR





GRR Update #8 - Thursday =
morning, the 60th=20
hour of the GRR.


 


We have a winner and first course record holder! Keith Fraser, 42, of =
Vancouver,=20
British Columbia finished solo this morning at 4:55, for total elapsed =
time of=20
58:55. Keith's riding partner for almost the entire event was fellow =
Canadian=20
Michael Lau, 39, of Ottawa Ontario. About 15 blocks from the finish, =
Michael=20
pulled off the course, announcing he was going to skip the check in and =
head=20
straight to his hotel. We expect Michael to check in officially later in =
the=20
day, when he catches up on his sleep.


 


Keith reported high temperatures and strong headwinds as the duo =
descended=20
the Feather River Canyon Wednesday afternoon. But temperatures dropped =
quite a=20
bit as the evening progressed, and Mary Woodside gave the riders plastic =
bags to=20
keep their hands warm when they came through the Secret Control at 1:07 =
this=20
morning. Mary also reported that Reid Walden came through early this =
morning=20
looking strong, and he's expected in at the finish any time now.


 


The three members of the Official Greeting Crew experienced a =
little=20
anxiety as they plotted the perfect place to park by the side of the =
road and=20
cheer on the first two riders. After waking up finish line captain Rich =
Boettner=20
at 3 a.m., insisting the leaders could be there "any second now," they =
drove=20
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were=20
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feared=20
they had overlooked them at one of the mini-marts in Woodland. But=20
the leaders eventually appeared as the crew waited by the =
bridge over=20
the Sacramento River. It turns out Keith and Michael had gotten lost =
after the=20
Secret Control, and spent some time riding in circles before getting =
back on=20
course. 


 


Reports from other parts of the course have been a bit scarce =
through the=20
night hours, but early this morning we learned that Paul Guttenberg was=20
temporarily misplaced. Course monitor Ellie Olsen went looking for him =
off=20
course near Antelope Lake, but by the time she found him, he had already =
found=20
himself. Control captain Craig Robertson reports that Ken Bonner left =
Oroville=20
at 12:08 this morning, while Jerry Khorll left a bit later at =
1:53.


 


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soon as=20
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Subject: GRR Update #9 - Thursday afternoon, the 66th hour of the GRR


GRR Update #9 - Thursday afternoon, the 66th hour of the GRR.
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More riders are trickling in to the finish line one by one as the day
goes on. Finishing second behind Keith Fraser was Reid Walden, 50, of
San Francisco. Reid arrived in Davis at 6:31 this morning, for a total
elapsed time of 60:31 with one hour of sleep. Coming in third place at
9:51 a.m. (63:51 total with no sleep stops) was Jerry Khorll, 37, of
Chesterfield, Missouri. Ken Bonner, 58, of Victoria, British  Columbia,
is in fourth place after arriving at 10:08 (64:08 total). And rounding
out the morning's finishers is Sacramento rider Wayne Woodside, 54, who
finished at 10:42 (64:42 hours total). Wayne spent a bit more time at
the Secret Control than earlier riders (almost an hour), but that's
understandable: his wife, Mary, is the control captain, and we hear
she's been serving a fine apricot cobbler.=20
=20
Jerry recorded 23,900 feet of climbing on his Avocet wrist altimeter.
While this is less than the 32,000 on BMB and the 31,000 on PBP, Jerry
is certain that the ride was every bit as challenging as either of
these. Jerry is the first rider to admit walking up the steep section of
Janesville Grade, even with his low gear of 39x26.=20
=20
Ken Bonner, who also finished the course without sleep,  had a close
encounter with a cornfield halfway between the Secret Control and the
finish. He learned it's kind of hard to stay on the pavement while
riding, map-reading and chugging from a water bottle simultaneously. He
thought the cornfield was pretty comfortable and considered taking a
nap. Ken reports that the best part of the ride was the spectacular
service of the control volunteers. He said it was hard to leave every
rest stop, and he especially appreciated the ice cream at Greenville.
=20
Elsewhere on the course, the Susanville Control closed at 8:06 this
morning, and all riders still participating made it in before closing.
It looks like Mitch Ashley and Ken Dobb are still in good shape, having
left Susanville at 9:10 this morning after a break of nearly five hours.
The father-and-son team of Steve and Jason Buck left Susanville together
at 6:10 this morning, but we've noticed that Jason arrived 10 minutes
earlier than his dad.=20
=20
The gearheads at the finish are studying the relationship between gear
ratio and riding technique on Janesville Grade . Data so far:
Keith Fraser : 39x23, quite a bit of zig-zagging
Reid Walden: 39x26, a few zig zags, a little standing
Jerry Khorll: 39x26, a little walking
Ken Bonner: 32x32, a sensible fellow, but he still walked some
Wayne: 39X23, "not to be done again"
=20
The next finishers are expected late this afternoon. We'll try to report
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rain and snow the riders encountered in the mountains, they may start to
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12, 2001=20
3:25 PM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR Update =
#9 -=20
Thursday afternoon, the 66th hour of the GRR





GRR Update #9 - Thursday =
afternoon, the 66th=20
hour of the GRR.


 


More riders are trickling in to the finish line one by one as the =
day goes=20
on. Finishing second behind Keith Fraser was Reid Walden, 50, of San =
Francisco.=20
Reid arrived in Davis at 6:31 this morning, for a total elapsed time of =
60:31=20
with one hour of sleep. Coming in third place at 9:51 a.m. (63:51 total =
with no=20
sleep stops) was Jerry Khorll, 37, of Chesterfield, Missouri. Ken =
Bonner, 58, of=20
Victoria, British  Columbia, is in fourth place after arriving =
at=20
10:08 (64:08 total). And rounding out the morning's=20
finishers is Sacramento rider Wayne Woodside, 54, who finished =
at=20
10:42 (64:42 hours total). Wayne spent a bit more time at the Secret =
Control=20
than earlier riders (almost an hour), but that's understandable: his =
wife, Mary,=20
is the control captain, and we hear she's been serving a fine apricot=20
cobbler. 


 


Jerry recorded 23,900 feet of climbing on his Avocet wrist =
altimeter. While=20
this is less than the 32,000 on BMB and the 31,000 on PBP, Jerry is =
certain that=20
the ride was every bit as challenging as either of these. Jerry is =
the=20
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Grade, even=20
with his low gear of 39x26. 


 


Ken Bonner, who also finished the course without sleep,  had a =
close=20
encounter with a cornfield halfway between the Secret Control and =
the=20
finish. He learned it's kind of hard to stay on the pavement =
while=20
riding, map-reading and chugging from a water bottle simultaneously. He =
thought=20
the cornfield was pretty comfortable and considered taking a nap. Ken =
reports=20
that the best part of the ride was the spectacular service of the =
control=20
volunteers. He said it was hard to leave every rest stop, and he =
especially=20
appreciated the ice cream at Greenville.


 


Elsewhere on the course, the Susanville Control closed at 8:06 this =

morning, and all riders still participating made it in before closing. =
It looks=20
like Mitch Ashley and Ken Dobb are still in good shape, having left =
Susanville=20
at 9:10 this morning after a break of nearly five hours. The =
father-and-son team=20
of Steve and Jason Buck left Susanville together at 6:10 this =
morning,=20
but we've noticed that Jason arrived 10 minutes earlier than his =
dad.=20



 


The gearheads at the finish are studying the relationship between =
gear=20
ratio and riding technique on Janesville Grade . Data so far:


Keith Fraser : 39x23, quite a bit of zig-zagging


Reid Walden: 39x26, a few zig zags, a little standing


Jerry Khorll: 39x26, a little walking


Ken Bonner: 32x32, a sensible fellow, but he still walked =
some


Wayne: 39X23, "not to be done again"


 


The next finishers are expected late this afternoon. We'll try to =
report on=20
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rain and=20
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appreciate=20
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Hello Michele,
=20
We wish we knew too.  Ken Bonner, the 4th place finisher, is at the same
motel and said he'd tell Michael to ride over to the finish and sign in
soon.
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	Subject: stopping with 15 blocks?

	Could you shed some light for your non-competing audience on WHY
Michael Lau=20
	would not have wanted his completion time recorded along with
Keith Fraser?=20
	My family has come up with several scenarios...but only one
seems reasonable.=20
	      Keith "needed" the win as some kind of qualifyer for
future races?=20
	Though, I am certain there is little reason left after 60 hours
on a bike...=20
	Thanks again, for your fine work.=20
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Re: stopping with 15 blocks?



Hello Michele,


 


We wish we knew too.  Ken Bonner, =
the 4th=20
place finisher, is at the same motel and said he'd tell Michael=20
to ride over to the finish and sign in soon.


 


Joe


 


  
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Subject: stopping with 15 =
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Could you =
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would not =
have=20
  wanted his completion time recorded along with Keith Fraser? 
My =
family has=20
  come up with several scenarios...but only one seems reasonable.=20
  
      Keith "needed" the win as some =
kind of=20
  qualifyer for future races? 
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reason=20
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Thanks again, for your fine work. =

  

Michele Guttenberg =

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Subject: GRR Update #10 - Thursday afternoon, the 69th hour of the GRR


GRR Update #10 - Thursday afternoon, the 69th hour of the GRR.
=20
This just in: A group of five riders led by tandem team Scott
English/Susan Cooper left the Secret Control at 11:51 this morning. Most
of the earlier single riders were taking about 2 hours 30 minutes to go
from this last control to the finish. With this powerful tandem team at
the front, this group could be arriving in Davis within the next hour.
Other riders in this group include Daniel Fuoco, Stig Lundgaard and Jim
Solanick. As far as we can tell Dana is a little ways behind this group.
So, if you're thinking about visiting the finish but weren't sure
whether there would be riders, come on down.
=20
The other mixed tandems are doing fine as well. Peter Dusel/Cynthia Van
der Wiele left Greenville at 10:21, and Dan Crain/Anny Beck are a little
further back, having left Greenville at 13:00 (1 p.m. for all you
non-military types). We think the Michel Richard/Karen Smith tandem left
a bit later, at 13:46, but the report was a little confusing, so look
for a possible revision here later.
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Others who have recently left Greenville include Jason and Steve Buck,
Charles Grabiak, Karen Aydelott and Chuck Bramwell. Lois Springsteen
pulled in at 12:58, but we don't yet have a departure time for her.
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Coble. For the most recent time splits for riders, please check the
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Sent: Thursday, July =
12, 2001=20
5:29 PM
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Subject: GRR Update =
#10 -=20
Thursday afternoon, the 69th hour of the GRR



GRR Update #10 - Thursday afternoon, =
the 69th hour=20
of the GRR.


 


This just in: A group of five riders =
led by tandem=20
team Scott English/Susan Cooper left the Secret Control at 11:51 this =
morning.=20
Most of the earlier single riders were taking about 2 hours 30 minutes =
to go=20
from this last control to the finish. With this powerful tandem =
team at the=20
front, this group could be arriving in Davis within the next hour.  =
Other=20
riders in this group include Daniel Fuoco, Stig Lundgaard and Jim =
Solanick. As=20
far as we can tell Dana is a little ways behind this group. So, if =
you're=20
thinking about visiting the finish but weren't sure whether there would =
be=20
riders, come on down.


 


The other mixed tandems are doing fine =
as well.=20
Peter Dusel/Cynthia Van der Wiele left Greenville at 10:21, and Dan =
Crain/Anny=20
Beck are a little further back, having left Greenville at 13:00 (1 p.m. =
for all=20
you non-military types). We think the Michel Richard/Karen Smith tandem =
left a=20
bit later, at 13:46, but the report was a little confusing, so look for =
a=20
possible revision here later.


 


Others who have recently left =
Greenville include=20
Jason and Steve Buck, Charles Grabiak, Karen Aydelott and Chuck =
Bramwell. Lois=20
Springsteen pulled in at 12:58, but we don't yet have a departure time =
for her.=20
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Coble. For=20
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GRR update #12, Thursday Evening, the 77th hour of the GRR
=20
Let's take a moment and talk about the women riding the GRR (chorus
section: Its about time!!!).  The first woman finisher recently arrived.
Karen Bonnett rolled in with Bob Coble and Marty Holloway at 9:51 p.m.
Her time is 75:51, a brand new course record that should hold for four
years, until the next GRR when she'll have to come back and lower it.
The control workers said that Karen maintained a great sense of humor
throughout the ride and looked in great shape at the finish.  Good job
Karen!
=20
Marty Holloway, who finished with Karen, you may recall from an earlier
update started the GRR as a swinging bachelor, but has finished the GRR
engaged to be married!  No information yet on where and when the wedding
will be, but may we suggest having the wedding at the Adin Community
Center with control captains Mike Tigges and Susan Jacobson catering the
event.
=20
But this is really about the women of the GRR.  We expect Karen Aydelott
to finish early tomorrow morning with Lois Springsteen not far behind.
Both women signed up for the 1000k brevet, but continued on to get
another 200k brevet in AND receive the coveted GRR jersey.  Karen Smith
has been riding with Michel Richard for the entire brevet, thus leading
us to believe that they were on a tandem.  However, we stand corrected -
they are riding singles.  Both are currently at the Oroville control,
getting a little rest before moving on.
=20
The Tobin control is now offically closed with the last riders leaving
about three hours ago.  Control captain Craig Robertson is anxiously
waiting the arrival of the last four riders to his Oroville control, the
last official control before the finish in Davis.  We had earlier
reports from the Tobin control that Craig Wilson has 'Shermer Neck' and
has a water bottle tied under his chin to hold his head up.  He should
be arriving at Oroville soon; Martin Heath is apparently sticking with
him to keep him on course.  Craig is definitly in the running for the
'Dennis Hearst Determination Award'!
=20
James Mott-Smith has just reached the finish line minutes ago. We now
have 23 GRR finishers.  There are still 37 riders out on the course but
all are within 100 miles of finishing.   John Robbins finished his 1000k
brevet at Tobin and now has enough brevets under his belt to receive the
Randonneur 5000 award!  He decided that the last 200k portion was not
necessary and was last seen quaffing a beer at Oroville waiting for a
ride home.
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Sent: Friday, July =
13, 2001=20
3:08 AM
To: ultra; randon; dbc
Subject: GRR Update =
#12,=20
Thursday Evening, the 77th hour of the GRR



GRR update #12, Thursday Evening, the =
77th hour of=20
the GRR


 


Let's take a moment and talk about the =
women riding=20
the GRR (chorus section: Its about time!!!).  The first woman =
finisher=20
recently arrived.  Karen Bonnett rolled in with Bob Coble and Marty =

Holloway at 9:51 p.m.  Her time is 75:51, a brand new course record =
that=20
should hold for four years, until the next GRR when she'll have to come =
back and=20
lower it.  The control workers said that Karen maintained a great =
sense of=20
humor throughout the ride and looked in great shape at the finish.  =
Good=20
job Karen!


 


Marty Holloway, who finished with =
Karen, you may=20
recall from an earlier update started the GRR as a swinging bachelor, =
but has=20
finished the GRR engaged to be married!  No information yet on =
where and=20
when the wedding will be, but may we suggest having the wedding at the =
Adin=20
Community Center with control captains Mike Tigges and Susan Jacobson =
catering=20
the event.


 


But this is really about the women of =
the=20
GRR.  We expect Karen Aydelott to finish early tomorrow morning =
with Lois=20
Springsteen not far behind.  Both women signed up for the 1000k =
brevet, but=20
continued on to get another 200k brevet in AND receive the coveted GRR=20
jersey.  Karen Smith has been riding with Michel Richard for the =
entire=20
brevet, thus leading us to believe that they were on a tandem.  =
However, we=20
stand corrected - they are riding singles.  Both are currently at =
the=20
Oroville control, getting a little rest before moving on.


 


The Tobin control is now offically =
closed with the=20
last riders leaving about three hours ago.  Control captain Craig =
Robertson=20
is anxiously waiting the arrival of the last four riders to his Oroville =

control, the last official control before the finish in Davis.  We =
had=20
earlier reports from the Tobin control that Craig Wilson has 'Shermer =
Neck' and=20
has a water bottle tied under his chin to hold his head up.  He =
should be=20
arriving at Oroville soon; Martin Heath is apparently sticking with him =
to keep=20
him on course.  Craig is definitly in the running for the 'Dennis =
Hearst=20
Determination Award'!


 


James Mott-Smith has just reached the =
finish line=20
minutes ago. We now have 23 GRR finishers.  There are =
still 37=20
riders out on the course but all are within 100 miles of =
finishing.  =20
John Robbins finished his 1000k brevet at Tobin and now has enough =
brevets under=20
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last=20
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Subject: GRR update #13 Friday Morning, the 86th hour of the GRR


GRR update #13, Monday Morning, the 86th hour of the GRR
=20
Another cool glorious morning here in Davis with only 11 riders left to
finish. The last rider Craig Wilson left the Secret Control 39 miles out
at 7:50am.  His Shermer neck continues unabated, but his spirits remain
high as Wayne Woodside follows him in by car.  Every checkpoint has
commented on the cheerful and determined attitude of this first time
randonneur. Speculation is that we'll see him on many more randonnees to
come.
=20
We've just received a call from Mark Behning at the finish line telling
us the Chris Wilby, the Brit, and the father-son team of Steve and Jason
Buck have just arrived at 8:33am.  We were a bit worried about Chris as
he left the Secret Control at 3:33am but word has it he rested in a
cornfield for a few minutes along the way. Nancy Buck who staffed the
Susanville control is most likely down at the finish now congratulating
her husband and son.
=20
So now there are just 7 left...Mitch Ashley and Ken Dobb,  Michel
Richard, Karen Smith and Perry Smith, Daniel Tupper and Martin Heath.
The split between the Secret and the Finish has ranged from 2.5 to 5
hours, so we're hoping the adrenalin rush brings all our comrades down F
Street by noon.  We should see them all between 11 and 12 so come on
down to F Street and cheer them in!  It's gonna be close!!!!
=20
A reminder that the Awards Luncheon starts at 1pm at Vets Memorial at
14th & F Sts.  Dos Coyotes is preparing another great meal (just like
after the Davis Double).  Everyone is welcome!  For all the Premier Gold
Rush riders and those of you wearing DBC First Class Support Crew shirts
(all 162 of you wonderful people) the meal is complimetary.
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Subject: GRR update =
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Friday Morning, the 86th hour of the GRR





GRR update #13, Monday Morning, the =
86th hour of=20
the GRR


 


Another cool glorious morning here in Davis with only 11 riders =
left to=20
finish. The last rider Craig Wilson left the Secret Control 39 miles out =
at=20
7:50am.  His Shermer neck continues unabated, but his spirits =
remain high=20
as Wayne Woodside follows him in by car.  Every checkpoint has =

commented on the cheerful and determined attitude of this first time =
randonneur.=20
Speculation is that we'll see him on many more ra